You'll see a lot of demands for refunds of Life passes for a start. You're playing this game because people (maybe even you) agreed to a set of proposals for the game you play. One of those was 3 modes. Don't forget it, it's very important.
I hope DW2 gets ganked all the way to Beagle Point.
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You'll see a lot of demands for refunds of Life passes for a start. You're playing this game because people (maybe even you) agreed to a set of proposals for the game you play. One of those was 3 modes. Don't forget it, it's very important.
i would contend that griefers "believing they've won" is much more a response to Frontier's action (or inaction in most cases) than to any group of players choosing to play in a different mode. and really, the only way to truly be safe from griefers is to simply not log into the game.
i would further contend that individuals using private group modes to simulate open play is no less griefing than a griefer infiltrating a private group in order to simulate open play.
QED
To use Q.E.D. you have to prove it first
This is just a (silly) statement:
"i would further contend that individuals using private group modes to simulate open play is no less griefing than a griefer infiltrating a private group in order to simulate open play."
So ... have at it!
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The temptation to join a war was there, but I chose to be part of the media event bit. Maybe next time I'll go the other way and get pounded, but it was fun and I enjoyed it. Glad of the fun and regret nothing, will pop into FLEETCOMM when I'm needed for repairs [fat chance, toting decom limpets at 0.001% repair rating] but I'm in open now.
If you're determined to come after me en-masse, my final heroic words will be "Oh bugga, I surrender", but I won't have time to type them.
Sorry if I cheated, wasn't aware I had, you are welcome to report me and I'm sorry if I offended you.
Please don't kill me, they take my fighter pilot away and won't give her back if you kill me and that upsets me.
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...or arrange to get my pilot back and I'll weather it [smile]
We aren't stalking anyone to Beagle Point.
We're following a massive, stupid, and slow herd while in plain sight.
None of those is an EFP rating.
Why "Elite: Dangerous"?
It is amusing, but amusement ≠ negation.
I think it's a daft title too, and I never wholly understood the rationale behind it, but it's one of the few things about the lore that's as close to being etched in stone as it's possible to get. So until something from the mouth of a suitably authoritative horse supersedes it I will continue to look out for those poor souls who seem to have misinterpreted its meaning, and bring them up to speed courtesy of the Google Keep note I have ready to cut-and-paste for just such a purpose.
Am I being too literal in thinking that solo is one truly safe way to avoid griefers, aside from simply not logging into the game? I'm not attempting to be facetious, though I would consider your second statement ("i would further contend that individuals using private group...") to be considered as such.
In what way is playing in a PG considered "griefing"? Who is it griefing? Are you just spitting out random babble in an effort to create chaos?
Yeah, actually you probably are, lol. That's the only way to explain dribble like that statement.
It's interesting how many others in this thread totally have no problem at all with the existence of a wild-west "better watch your back" open mode in the game as long as there is an alternative. However, the existence of alternatives is "griefing" and an "exploit" to the small sub-set of PvP players who don't want to just enjoy fighting in consensual PvP but just want to ruin the fun of others and prey on explorers and traders who aren't into combat. I really hope Frontier reads this thread and really thinks about what kind of community we want. Yeah combat is a big part of Elite Dangerous but it's not the only part.
Watch out, we got a tough guy!
But on a serious note, the main reason for solo I think is that those who play on console have to pay extra money to access online content. Thus it would force people to pay for Xbox live or PlayStation whatever
In what way is playing in a PG considered "griefing"? Who is it griefing? Are you just spitting out random babble in an effort to create chaos?
Yeah, actually you probably are, lol. That's the only way to explain dribble like that statement.
CMDRs in a PG grief the gankers because they have less victims to grief.
None of those is an EFP rating.
Why "Elite: Dangerous"?
It is amusing, but amusement ≠ negation.
I think it's a daft title too, and I never wholly understood the rationale behind it, but it's one of the few things about the lore that's as close to being etched in stone as it's possible to get. So until something from the mouth of a suitably authoritative horse supersedes it I will continue to look out for those poor souls who seem to have misinterpreted its meaning, and bring them up to speed courtesy of the Google Keep note I have ready to cut-and-paste for just such a purpose.
It's not a "Garbage Can" because it's a can you put garbage into, you ignoramous! It's a "Garbage Can" because it's a can which is endorsed by the 90s Alt-Rock band Garbage. The fact that SOME people nonetheless put garbage into the can is merely a coincidence.
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I defend your right to grief, but not make poorly considered statements punctuated with QED.
Your comparison is hopelessly unbalanced, one goes to hunt the other, while the other goes to escape the hunter. Your interaction ends everybody's fun except your own, and if I'm not mistaken it ends your fun too until you find another victim. Kinda terminal isn't it? Their interaction ruins nobody's fun, except yours if they do it PG, because you can't ruin their fun...whee, round and round. The cycle only ends with you ending someone else's fun. Isn't that a bit sad? I think if I were a griefer, I'd stick to CGs, at least there's no shame in killing fat little rich T9 piggies full of treats. Explorers? Really? Well, ok, have at 'em.
Actually this has been discussed with no end.
As long as there are the modes, there will not be a combat focused competitive gameplay in ED. We know it. It's the way this game is designed.
If we think about BGS-Wars or Powerplay then indeed to play in Private Groups is the most effective way to achieve a competitve goal in ED since you have the combined advantages of Solo AND Open, since you can play togehter with friends against the environment without needing to fear opposing player groups directly interfering with you via direct pvp combat so groups can utilitize the most effective PvE tactics to further theyre goals in the single-shared galaxy.
oh my god, I've been succed into hotel california once again!
I need to shut down and log off. Alert. Alert.
As long as there are the modes, there will not be a combat focused competitive gameplay in ED. We know it. It's the way this game is designed.
If we think about BGS-Wars or Powerplay then indeed to play in Private Groups is the most effective way to achieve a competitve goal in ED since you have the combined advantages of Solo AND Open, since you can play togehter with friends against the environment without needing to fear opposing player groups directly interfering with you via direct pvp combat so groups can utilitize the most effective PvE tactics to further theyre goals in the single-shared galaxy.
oh my god, I've been succed into hotel california once again!
I need to shut down and log off. Alert. Alert.
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I like open, a bot fo PvP occassionally - when i the right ship, and something to risk and gain from it, rest of the time just run. But some of the comments of the PvP mob in this thread make me want to join Morbius. Based on what these people say in real life I would avoid of manage them out of the business at work, its a shame I have to spend my free time in the same game as them.
Pick your knuckles out on the way out.
Cheers
Simon
Pick your knuckles out on the way out.
Cheers
Simon
LOL! Reversed griefing. Priceless.
After all the FSS threads, I enjoy this one.
It's like the good old days!
Too late, you checked in.
It's not that bad, they may not have wine, but there's beer in the fridge and nuts in the rooms.
It's like the good old days!
Too late, you checked in.
It's not that bad, they may not have wine, but there's beer in the fridge and nuts in the rooms.
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None of those is an EFP rating.
Why "Elite: Dangerous"?
It is amusing, but amusement ≠ negation.
I think it's a daft title too, and I never wholly understood the rationale behind it, but it's one of the few things about the lore that's as close to being etched in stone as it's possible to get. So until something from the mouth of a suitably authoritative horse supersedes it I will continue to look out for those poor souls who seem to have misinterpreted its meaning, and bring them up to speed courtesy of the Google Keep note I have ready to cut-and-paste for just such a purpose.
Not really the point though is it, you call a game 'dangerous' for whatever reason, it turns out that it is, and a large number of the playerbase then wants it to be safe. It would be funny if it wasn't true, you can't make this stuff up.
Welcome to the Hotel California...doo doo doooup doo.