Engineers 3.3.01 High Grade Emissions for Dummies
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Frustration:
Just spent around 2 hours searching for Improvised Components
Currently 6 "civil unrest" systems and I visited them all
Got one HGE which didnt have the component I was after and the HGE disappeared after I got one load (even though the timer had time remaining).
For me this is mind numbing, frustrating and not game play.
Is there any hint that Fdev are considering changes to this system?
Just spent around 2 hours searching for Improvised Components
Currently 6 "civil unrest" systems and I visited them all
Got one HGE which didnt have the component I was after and the HGE disappeared after I got one load (even though the timer had time remaining).
For me this is mind numbing, frustrating and not game play.
Is there any hint that Fdev are considering changes to this system?
Yes, there's a hint that they're gonna stop USS from respawning. It will become impossible to get any decent numbers of mats then.
I hate to say that but as I have not been able to find a single HGE so far even in high pop systems in boom state I definitely prefer the old system before the patch.
Thanks for taking the time to list all that.
After having terrible luck I took some time to note system states and my conclusion is that currently this part of the game is bugged to hell and back.
System LP 98-132
Alliance
STATE:
Gal map = Civil Unrest (EDDB says this also)
System Map = Investment, Civil Unrest, Pirate Attack
HGE timer = Boom State
Materials gathered = Proto Heat radiators, Proto Light alloys, Proto radiolic alloys
The left hand does no know what the right hand is doing
EDIT
I just check the timer again and it listed faction as "H Draconis Resistance" and their state is indeed Boom. They are not the controlling faction anywhere in the system (9% influence).
So, at present, it appears that the state which may or may not determine the materials we can find is linked to the state of a random faction in the system and there is no way of knowing which faction it will be until we arrive.
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Well I was just passing through several random systems to my destination and made a note of the state/drops but you're welcome .
TBH approach I take is opportunistic I scan the system and run through the USS if I find an HGE that's less than 10000 LS and has sensible duration I go and collect whatever's there.
I think the most important aspect of the changes is that we can find HGE's quickly, they may not contain exactly what we want but we can trade for that (inefficient I know), with this approach it's easy to max out the mats that are dropping and trade for the ones you need then refill as you go.
.TBH approach I take is opportunistic I scan the system and run through the USS if I find an HGE that's less than 10000 LS and has sensible duration I go and collect whatever's there.
I think the most important aspect of the changes is that we can find HGE's quickly, they may not contain exactly what we want but we can trade for that (inefficient I know), with this approach it's easy to max out the mats that are dropping and trade for the ones you need then refill as you go.
Well I was just passing through several random systems to my destination and made a note of the state/drops but you're welcome
TBH approach I take is opportunistic I scan the system and run through the USS if I find an HGE that's less than 10000 LS and has sensible duration I go and collect whatever's there.
I think the most important aspect of the changes is that we can find HGE's quickly, they may not contain exactly what we want but we can trade for that (inefficient I know), with this approach it's easy to max out the mats that are dropping and trade for the ones you need then refill as you go.
Agreed, I still trying to work it out but at the moment it seems random. I'm just scanning every system I pass through, if it has HGE I milk it. I am going to post some experiences in this thread in the hopes that somebody smarter then me can find a pattern.
V989 Cassiopeiae
Federation Corporate Population 200,831
States:
Gal map = none
System map = none
HGE timer = none
Faction = none (every faction had none)
HGE contents = Core Dynamics Composites and Proprietary Composites
Prior to the update collecting CDC+PC was pretty hit and miss you could be in the "right place" Fed boom that is and still get a spread of different mats.
I reckon what we've got currently is similar, the spread of mats available is controlled by Allegiance (CDC in Fed systems, Imp shielding in Empire) the state may increase the probability of one or more HGE spawning or add different drops to the mat spread with a spot of RNG to round off the spawning.
So as V989 is Fed with no states it defaults to CDC+PC, add in boom state and you could have proto radiolic alloys/proto heat rads added to RNG spin as well, I'd hazard a guess that in Empire systems CDC+PC are replaced by Imperial shielding with RNG options from the six remaining grade 5 mats
The HGE will respawn if you relog and go back into supercruise. The timer, however, remains ticking down from when you first discovered it and the HGE will vanish when the timer expires.
Yes, thanks Kzak. Seems that occasionally it bugs out and the HGE does not respawn.
I spent an entire evening looking for those stupid things. Eventually just got a bunch of other junk and used material traders. Weeee...
So as of the morning of Jan-17-2019, this appears to have been nerfed. Tested on 4 HGEs; dropped in, scooped it all, logged out, logged back in, supercruise + boost, check nav panel, and it's gone. As someone who has been farming HGEs for the last two weeks, I'm not doing it wrong. Looks like it's back to Dav's Hope and visiting the Material Trader again...
Mandatory 'fun'.
Or you could just farm Core Dynamics Composites or Imperial Shielding and go to a MFG trader.
Just sayin'
Just sayin'
