A new line of ships.

[Burke]

I think that FD could definately make some income by selling ships in the store. Yes there would be some moaning but there would also be people who never come ot the forums who would just spend their money. Imagine premium ships with locked loadouts. This would give FD complete control over these ships and what they could be used for. Now some might say that im just pushing my agenda and want the old ADS back and i cant deny it, but these ships dont all have to be tailored for exploration. Im not going to touch on PVP or mining cause i dont do those things.

For example.

The main thing to watch out for is that you're not suckered into buying one of the early models, which don't benefit from the vastly improved plastiglass hull. This critical improvement gave the ship the toughness to survive the rigours of space and its remarkable lightness gives the thrusters far less work to do. If you're buying a Cobra Mk 1 in an outlying system, make absolutely sure you buy the newer version. The old one is fit only for flying into stars.

Thats the cobra mk1 from the wiki.

An out-of-production spacecraft produced by Faulcon DeLacy and one of its earliest designs. The Krait once led the field in small scale fighter craft - faster, more agile, and more heavily armed than most of its rivals, the design sold in the millions. Now the Krait is largely obsolete. It remains a heavily armed fighter for its size, but its sluggish speed and sub-standard manoeuvrability make it vulnerable to escort fighters and modern police ships. Kraits are still found in the poorer and more anarchic parts of the galaxy - most are a hodgepodge of old and new technology cobbled together. In combat, the Krait is often paired off against larger ships, such as the Cobra and Asp, who match the tiny ship in manoeuvrability, but who remain vulnerable to the Krait's impressive weaponry.

Thats the krait lightspeeder from the other wiki.

This applys particularly to the krait cause it even sais its a patchwork ship. I beleive there is a market for this kind of thing. Take a look at mechwarrior online, look how they milked their mech line, FD could be getting in on some of this altho i certainly dont recommened using them as a role model, it would be a way to bring the many old ships that people request into the game in a controlled way. I would pay for this kind of thing and i believe others would aswell.

 

[Orvidius]

I don't think I'd spend money on locked loadouts. Half the fun (for me) is tweaking and optimizing my builds for whatever I'm doing.

 

[SlouchMonster]

I don't think I'd spend money on locked loadouts. Half the fun (for me) is tweaking and optimizing my builds for whatever I'm doing.

What he said.

If ships ended up behind a pay wall I'd drop this game like last night's takeaway. Sounds way too much like pay to win or pay to play.

 

[Burke]

Well honestly i dont care if the loadouts were locked or not. It was an attempt to add some drawbacks to a premium ship. So its not pay to win, more pay for status. That said so long as FD got the builds right there is no reason it cant work with locked builds. They arnt supposed to be like the advanced ships you can buy in game. Just a thought anyway

Basicly you are buying something that probably is substandard in gameplay terms. Nobody forcing anybody to buy it tho.

 

[Sylow]

Now some might say that im just pushing my agenda and want the old ADS back and i cant deny it, but these ships dont all have to be tailored for exploration. Im not going to touch on PVP or mining cause i dont do those things.

So basically your message is: you would want ED to now go Pay2Win by offering special outfitting options, e.g. old style ADS? And you actually think this would be a good idea? Even when knowing that the community at large strongly stood against P2W during this games founding and FD promised that there'd never be any P2W in the item store?

You are aware how much flack the mediocre at best Cobra MK IV already created. Some people are still raging about that one. This suggestion here would be a guaranteed disaster.

So really, man: the ADS is gone. It's history. The new FSS sure also has some problems and there's a a lot of improvement possible. I've read some excellent suggestions for that. This is the way to go forward. It would be much more helpful and creative than finding yet another weird suggestion on how we could turn back the games development and re-activate an old placeholder.

 

[Scubadog]

It makes no sense to have ships that we buy separately from what we use in-game credits for, unless it was part of a new DLC pack.

 

[Burke]

It makes no sense to have ships that we buy separately from what we use in-game credits for, unless it was part of a new DLC pack.

It would raise alot of money for new development. They could sell ships for £20 each and people gonna buy them, its been proven time and again that people will pay up for their nostalgia online. Really what im talking about is a kind of DLC pack.

 

[Scubadog]

There are other ways to raise money. For the customers, for the game players, this makes not sense.

 

[Captain Jack Sparrow]

I don't have time to fly all the ships I currently have. Why would I buy more ships that require real cash? You've been reading too many Star Citizen threads

 

[Scubadog]

Excellent point. And I get so sick of hearing about Star Citizen-The Half-Baked Game.

 

[Burke]

Before you shoot it down, you need to think about how much more development this game is ever going to get. The reason selling ships is good is that its mostly artwork. Its a low effort high reward model. As for locked builds, this would address another problem in this game where FD are afraid to touch anything "cause it will buff teh anaconda aswell" Lockd builds offer a possible solution there and best of all they never power creep.

 

[Sylow]

Before you shoot it down, you need to think about how much more development this game is ever going to get. The reason selling ships is good is that its mostly artwork. Its a low effort high reward model. As for locked builds, this would address another problem in this game where FD are afraid to touch anything "cause it will buff teh anaconda aswell" Lockd builds offer a possible solution there and best of all they never power creep.

So now your point for this suggestion is that the game is doomed?

Now, alas. I guess you are right. I mean, it's over a month since a massive rework was done, we only got three patches since then and not a single one was done over Xmas. So yes, clearly: dooomed.

 

[Iskariot]

I think that FD could definately make some income by selling ships in the store. Yes there would be some moaning but there would also be people who never come ot the forums who would just spend their money. Imagine premium ships with locked loadouts. This would give FD complete control over these ships and what they could be used for. Now some might say that im just pushing my agenda and want the old ADS back and i cant deny it, but these ships dont all have to be tailored for exploration. Im not going to touch on PVP or mining cause i dont do those things.

For example.



Thats the cobra mk1 from the wiki.



Thats the krait lightspeeder from the other wiki.

This applys particularly to the krait cause it even sais its a patchwork ship. I beleive there is a market for this kind of thing. Take a look at mechwarrior online, look how they milked their mech line, FD could be getting in on some of this altho i certainly dont recommened using them as a role model, it would be a way to bring the many old ships that people request into the game in a controlled way. I would pay for this kind of thing and i believe others would aswell.

Big NO from me.

I would not mind some ships being part of a paid for expansion.

 

[Misty_Dark]

I fail to see the logic that player will pay real money for a worse ship than we already have in the game.




I also fail to see the profitability in this, as i doubt that many player would buy these ships.



What is even worse, this would lay the foundation for pay to win mechanics, and that has always been bad for the players. This is also a terrible time for a game to go down this route. As players all over the world have started to take notice about this greedy behaviour, and have become alot more cautious about this. See how many of the latest big titles struggles because player no longer accept these bad game mechanics. I might be wrong here, but have you not complained this game being to grindy? Now imagine how grindy the game would be with pay to store!

 

[Robert Maynard]

I backed both space games when they Kickstarted - and I was glad when this one chose not to monetise game affecting items.

 

[Azmuth Divarchchron]

I think that FD could definately make some income by selling ships in the store. Yes there would be some moaning but there would also be people who never come ot the forums who would just spend their money. Imagine premium ships with locked loadouts. This would give FD complete control over these ships and what they could be used for. Now some might say that im just pushing my agenda and want the old ADS back and i cant deny it, but these ships dont all have to be tailored for exploration. Im not going to touch on PVP or mining cause i dont do those things.

For example.



Thats the cobra mk1 from the wiki.



Thats the krait lightspeeder from the other wiki.

This applys particularly to the krait cause it even sais its a patchwork ship. I beleive there is a market for this kind of thing. Take a look at mechwarrior online, look how they milked their mech line, FD could be getting in on some of this altho i certainly dont recommened using them as a role model, it would be a way to bring the many old ships that people request into the game in a controlled way. I would pay for this kind of thing and i believe others would aswell.

no
no pay to win ships
go away.
this is not star citizen

 

[Burke]

I also fail to see the profitability in this, as i doubt that many player would buy these ships.

Loads would. From the kids that want it bought for them to the nostalgia types who have money to waste. You cant see the profitablility in charging a full game price for what is very little work? Look at mechwarrior online and tell me its not easy money. Of course they had a much wider range of mechs to take advantage of than elite has ships.

 

[Ian Skippy]

I am all for new ships, including old and obsolete ones. Putting them in the store however would create an incentive to offer increasingly powerful ships, leading to even more power creep while making it very much p2w. See SC for what that does.

 

[xondk]

I think that FD could definately make some income by selling ships in the store. Yes there would be some moaning but there would also be people who never come ot the forums who would just spend their money. Imagine premium ships with locked loadouts. This would give FD complete control over these ships and what they could be used for. Now some might say that im just pushing my agenda and want the old ADS back and i cant deny it, but these ships dont all have to be tailored for exploration. Im not going to touch on PVP or mining cause i dont do those things.

For example.



Thats the cobra mk1 from the wiki.



Thats the krait lightspeeder from the other wiki.

This applys particularly to the krait cause it even sais its a patchwork ship. I beleive there is a market for this kind of thing. Take a look at mechwarrior online, look how they milked their mech line, FD could be getting in on some of this altho i certainly dont recommened using them as a role model, it would be a way to bring the many old ships that people request into the game in a controlled way. I would pay for this kind of thing and i believe others would aswell.

Pay to win? no thanks.

And dismissing it with "There will be some moaning" seems a bit arrogant, this this would significantly affect the balancing of the entire game.

So yeah...no, it would mess with the entire balance of the game if people could simply pay to get something 'better'.

 

[Burke]

Im reluctant to corret people evertime cause if my post count gets too high people make sometihng of it. But you guys arnt even reading the thread before replying. Its not pay to win. It wont powercreep, cant power creep by design. Its a sensible way for FD to buff ships without screwing the balance elsewhere. Locked builds is a mechanic to say manufacturer default modules are better but they come hardwired in. If you say the money is an issue, ok. But i wsnt going to suggest they did this for free cause development doesnt seem to move all that fast.

Starcitizen doesnt even come into this. It doesnt interest me, it looks nice and its got further than i expected but i still think the people behind it are having a laugh.