Thargoid invasion is *really* slow going.
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Exactly, the answer is easy, the so called invasion is going so slow, because it is just a scirmish... Invasion of the bubble dosn't makes sense anyway, just in the Pleiades it makes sense. ..
That's dashed decent of them!
That's exactly wrong, they are smarter then humans and a declaration them being paratis its not really correct either...
Perhaps only some individuals, while the rest are like those lacking intelligence and driven only by instincts. Can be pre-programmed.
Why would you think they are smarter than us?
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They don't hang out on the forums for one thing....
The pace of the way seems quite slow to be fair. But understand the technical and future dated development options is the reason why, not to mention the pre-occupation of the development team's next expansion in which no announcement has been made at this time, with every different update that we've had (Or most that is) new Guardian/Thargoid related events have been released.
The only thing that I concern myself regarding this is if this will provide further escalations towards the "War" that we so deem this to be. While I find this to be Skirmishes and small quarantined open conflicts, something needs to happen that would provide a warrant of fear and lack of safety (while still having open safe spaces)
For example, a Thargoid Hive Ship emerges right outside of Achenar, Earth or any other major worlds bound by high populations, would the sense of conflict shift to a more pressing matter such as the developers may want it to be?
Either way, this matter will only develop with patience and hopefully correct planning from the developers to truly change things up to entice us to take action (for those who wish to of course)
The only thing that I concern myself regarding this is if this will provide further escalations towards the "War" that we so deem this to be. While I find this to be Skirmishes and small quarantined open conflicts, something needs to happen that would provide a warrant of fear and lack of safety (while still having open safe spaces)
For example, a Thargoid Hive Ship emerges right outside of Achenar, Earth or any other major worlds bound by high populations, would the sense of conflict shift to a more pressing matter such as the developers may want it to be?
Either way, this matter will only develop with patience and hopefully correct planning from the developers to truly change things up to entice us to take action (for those who wish to of course)
Read the Codex.
Paraphrased - "A Thargoid Queen is at *least* as intelligent as a human being.
Thargoid Queens are the equivalent of people in Thargoid society, with drones being more like workable pets.
Why do I have to think of Mass Effects Rachni now???
[video=youtube;L9IRCTN-qas]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9IRCTN-qas[/video]
True, though I don't believe it. I'm not seeing any intelligence form the Thargoid side. Their fighters are not any good than our elite pilots, their combat tactics are simple and repetetive (or basically doesn't exist). They don't run away when losing the fight or call for help. They doN't communicate with us etc.
If they are to wipe us out, they are doing a terrible job. If they are after something else, they are doing a terrible job. If they achieve anything with their current methods, it'll be because FDev wants it to be.
Thargoids know about Distant Worlds 2 and decided it wouldn't be nice to attack now when so many CMDRs are away for months. They are very respectful, it is just not written in the cannon.
Well, but they've speeded up recently. Six incursions/infestations at once is twice as many as in 3.2 and three times as many as in 3.1
But on the other hand the slightly better Galnet reports of incursions mean that people don't overkill them so much, so it's easier to handle six at once.
But on the other hand the slightly better Galnet reports of incursions mean that people don't overkill them so much, so it's easier to handle six at once.
At the moment we have six systems in Incursion (Veja Deng, Ariatia, CE Bootis, HIP 23395, Palanti & Kareco) and six systems in infestation (Calaeno, Atlas, Asterope, Apishna, CG Virginis & HIP 24046).
I think this conflict has just stepped up a notch.
I think this conflict has just stepped up a notch.
Thargoid invasion was cancelled due to not enough pamphlets being printed out. In all seriousness though this story is progressing a little too slowly. In my player group we spent weeks defending system after system and its gotten quite boring honestly. This story as it is currently is too stagnant which is a shame because we loved reading galnet and just having that "Oh sh*t" moments. Now we only get hoaxes of misjumps and somebody stealing watercolor paintings. Where is the full scale invasion FDev? Can we get some thargoids flying around in SC at least? Just to make the threat actually seem like a threat? Sure we have six systems to defend but its getting too repetitive. Im fully aware of creating gameplay loops but come on this just doesnt feel like humanity is in any danger for CMDrs to care about defending systems anymore due to the story just stalling..........
The picture Terra Absentia sounds inteiguing though
It wouldn't really be a war if it was something that happened quickly.
From how I see the Thargoids behave now versus what we know from the Guardian lore, I'd almost wager to say that these Thargoids aren't the Thargoids from the Guardian era, nor from INRA's fungal genocide a century or so ago.
They seem far too... reserved for that, imho.
If they really were out for genocidal revenge they'd obliterate people in hyperdictions and utterly remove Stations - instead they just scan and leave, or scan and be annoyed until you jettison your (thargoid-)illicit cargo - and just sneeze corrosive ooze on the Stations.
Now; someone mentioned, either on these forums or reddit, that due to the playerbase size involved Frontier cannot really escalate the threat of Thargoids any more then they have in the past without it becoming impossible to handle.
Maybe this new 6-incursion thing will change that...
If that doesn't do the trick of upsetting the playerbase, then Frontier may decide to let that stolen 300 megaton nuke go off.
On Achenar. Where it may or may not kill the Emperor in the process. Either way is fine.
And then we'll see the Empire, followed by the rest of Humanity collapse into civil war.
And that would reduce the power of Aegis and the Anti-Xeno push, therefor letting the narrative continue in a darker direction by making the Thargoid incursion a nice Xeno-terror clusterfrak.
I did a "nukemap classic" test on a threehundred megaton Nuke, centered on Utrecht in the Netherlands, and it pretty much takes out all the major population centers in one blast, and lights the rest of the Netherlands, and parts of northern Belgium, on fire. Only a couple of farmers, cows, and communists in the northeast of the Netherlands get to survive - only to get blinded by the blast.
Get your popcorn right now, this is going to get good.
From how I see the Thargoids behave now versus what we know from the Guardian lore, I'd almost wager to say that these Thargoids aren't the Thargoids from the Guardian era, nor from INRA's fungal genocide a century or so ago.
They seem far too... reserved for that, imho.
If they really were out for genocidal revenge they'd obliterate people in hyperdictions and utterly remove Stations - instead they just scan and leave, or scan and be annoyed until you jettison your (thargoid-)illicit cargo - and just sneeze corrosive ooze on the Stations.
Now; someone mentioned, either on these forums or reddit, that due to the playerbase size involved Frontier cannot really escalate the threat of Thargoids any more then they have in the past without it becoming impossible to handle.
Maybe this new 6-incursion thing will change that...
If that doesn't do the trick of upsetting the playerbase, then Frontier may decide to let that stolen 300 megaton nuke go off.
On Achenar. Where it may or may not kill the Emperor in the process. Either way is fine.
And then we'll see the Empire, followed by the rest of Humanity collapse into civil war.
And that would reduce the power of Aegis and the Anti-Xeno push, therefor letting the narrative continue in a darker direction by making the Thargoid incursion a nice Xeno-terror clusterfrak.
I did a "nukemap classic" test on a threehundred megaton Nuke, centered on Utrecht in the Netherlands, and it pretty much takes out all the major population centers in one blast, and lights the rest of the Netherlands, and parts of northern Belgium, on fire. Only a couple of farmers, cows, and communists in the northeast of the Netherlands get to survive - only to get blinded by the blast.
Get your popcorn right now, this is going to get good.