General / Off-Topic Captain Marvel Movie

[Stigbob]

Have to agree with you there, it's a continuation of the anti-Rey thing and has been going on since long before the movie opened. QED it's got little or nothing to do with the actual film.

I'm looking forward to End Game now (saw Cpt Marvel, liked it). So picture this ... Pepper Potts jumps in the Mark 39 (or whatever suit it is) rescues Tony Stark, saves the day and HOW the "wamen" salt doth flow! lol

We can hope, its getting to the point where it gets in the way of trying to natter about movies.

Here's an interesting star wars fact in the New Hope Leia saves the day when they are trapped in the detention area through lack of plan. Score one for the womenfolk resultant outcry zero.

 

[jasonbarron]

We can hope, its getting to the point where it gets in the way of trying to natter about movies.

Here's an interesting star wars fact in the New Hope Leia saves the day when they are trapped in the detention area through lack of plan. Score one for the womenfolk resultant outcry zero.

At least her feisty heroics were consistent with the story, now we have mysterious flying Leia.

 

[Stigbob]

Ok, before I reply, I'm not taking sides, just commenting on your post and how it's worded and how it comes across.

1) The point the people taking the photos were trying to make wasn't "oh look there's no kids" it was "This movie was supposed to be sold out, but there's no-one here". Many have taken photos and claimed this is the case from many cinemas (this includes staff) at different times of the day. I personally don't know if they are telling the truth or if they are lying, but as I haven't visited every cinema in the world, I don't know how much truth there is in these claims and neither do you.

If you had checked you'd be able to argue from a more enlightened perspective. I have and can assure you its all agenda driven cobblers.

2) I haven't checked the seat availability for every showing in every cinema in the world ... neither have you. I'm not even going to check my local cinema ... I don't care.

Not checking is where you went wrong. If you don't care why respond ?.

3) It isn't "I hate girls/women in movies or being the lead in the movie" You made that claim because you're not keeping an open mind to all sides, and are only focused on the side you agree with. If you'd kept an open mind, you'd admit this controversy has come about because Brie Larsen was trying to make a statement about wanting more diversity in film critics, and worded her speech badly with (and I quote) "I don't want to know from a forty year old white dude what didn't work for him about a Wrinkle In Time, it wasn't made for him". This set off a group of Youtubers. both men and women, to criticise Brie for being sexist and racist (I'm not saying she was, just that that's what happened), and thus the SJW's came out and criticised them to defend Brie.

Now its my turn to say I don't care. Celebrities always talk rubbish its a not being grounded in real life thing.

Your posts came across as though you have a blinkered point of view and are taking the side of the SJW's, which you are free to do. All I'm suggesting is that you keep an open mind to both sides, because it seems to me, that you're not.

But anyway, I'm sure you enjoyed Captain Marvel (I take it you've seen it?) and that's OK.
Peace.

SJW's/haters are different sides of the same coin to me. I don't like any extremists as a rule.

I'm not blinkered I checked the claim and proved it was a lie.

I haven't seen it yet, Mrs Stigbob has deemed that I should take her out for dinner and a show hence checking cinema times for this weekend. However if the weathers good we'll be climbing mountains instead.

 

[Stigbob]

At least her feisty heroics were consistent with the story, now we have mysterious flying Leia.

Nothing mysterious about it moving things about is what the force is all about, try it on a rebel cruiser in zero g and you'll move to the cruiser due to having less mass.

 

[jasonbarron]

I can't wait for the remake of Lord of the Flies with an all female cast. Gonna be dank.

 

[Stigbob]

I can't wait for the remake of Lord of the Flies with an all female cast. Gonna be dank.

Catty comments about Piggy by the water cooler instead of dropping a rock on them.

 

[Leper Messiah]

There's absolutely nothing wrong with strong women in films at all, most reasonable people will understand that...My all time faves are Ripley, Sarah Connor and Leia. All VERY strong women who were strong by being strong and not by putting men down.

A lot of modern films seem to think it's acceptable to degrade men to buff up the women....take Ghostbusters remake, not enough they make it ALL female they HAD to make one of the worst degrading male characters in the history of movie making...I'm seriously surprised they didn't make Hemsworth prance about half naked. But anyone who criticises that film is just called sexist.

 

[jasonbarron]

Nothing mysterious about it moving things about is what the force is all about, try it on a rebel cruiser in zero g and you'll move to the cruiser due to having less mass.

Since when did Leia have force powers? That scene was a meme, nonsensically included because of the actresses death during production. It functions as an example of what is so terribly broken with modern movie making and deplorable audience expectation.

People swallowing crap like that (and pretty much everything marvel) is why there are hardly any good movies being made nowadays.

 

[Winterwalker]

So if that is all because of some incels, where was the outrage about Wonder Woman?

I'd say it's a couple of things. WW is an established lead .. from TV series and so on. Captain Marvel on the other hand has actually always struggled to get going in the comics (I think she's chosen here for the Kree/Skrull introduction, Guardians of the Galaxy make space look kooky and so did Ragnarok).

Secondly Brie Larson's OOC comments I don't suppose helped. A bit like dev experts on these forums sometimes, who know better than these upstart pro's, she was probably right on the demographics but it's also probably not her place to decide who reviews her work, probably didn't help her get on the good side of the press.

When it comes to the movie .. maybe the boys didn't mind Wonder Woman swooning for Steve Trevor's sacrifice (cos that's love and he took the initiative right on?). Carol Danvers just couldn't give a monkey's! lol (And I think that puts her closer to Rey's more ambiguous territory, there's no love interest at any rate. Spoiler).

 

[Leper Messiah]

Since when did Leia have force powers? That scene was a meme, nonsensically included because of the actresses death during production. It functions as an example of what is so terribly broken with modern movie making and deplorable audience expectation.

People swallowing crap like that (and pretty much everything marvel) is why there are hardly any good movies being made nowadays.

Yup that scene was mind boggling.

 

[Stigbob]

Since when did Leia have force powers? That scene was a meme, nonsensically included because of the actresses death during production. It functions as an example of what is so terribly broken with modern movie making and deplorable audience expectation.

People swallowing crap like that (and pretty much everything marvel) is why there are hardly any good movies being made nowadays.

Ever since she successfully received Lukes telepathic distress signal from the underside of Bespin and she saved him (again) after he blundered in without a plan (again) and it all went wrong (again). In the most highly regarded Star Wars movie.

Edit : Yoda also mentioned it in ROTJ.

 

[jasonbarron]

I'd say it's a couple of things. WW is an established lead .. from TV series and so on. Captain Marvel on the other hand has actually always struggled to get going in the comics (I think she's chosen here for the Kree/Skrull introduction, Guardians of the Galaxy make space look kooky and so did Ragnarok).

Secondly Brie Larson's OOC comments I don't suppose helped. A bit like dev experts on these forums sometimes, who know better than these upstart pro's, she was probably right on the demographics but it's also probably not her place to decide who reviews her work, probably didn't help her get on the good side of the press.

When it comes to the movie .. maybe the boys didn't mind Wonder Woman swooning for Steve Trevor's sacrifice (cos that's love and he took the initiative right on?). Carol Danvers just couldn't give a monkey's though! lol (And I think that puts her closer to Rey's more ambiguous territory, there's no love interest at any rate).

Well, Gal Gadot is awesome and relatable, while Brie Larson seems to have embraced the vocally anti man, anti white, angry feminist thing which is a real put off.

@Stigbob--weak. Very weak. Dumping flying Leia in there, magically floating and defying the vacuum of space more or less represents the creative direction Disney was going with their reboot: garbage. Other than enjoying Ridley's charisma, the reboot has almost zero redemptive qualities.

 

[Winterwalker]

Well, Gal Gadot is awesome and relatable, while Brie Larson seems to have embraced the vocally anti man, anti white, angry feminist thing which is a real put off.

I don't think it was diplomatic but though I do admit having a bit of thing for feisty women, I don't think she's anti. The way she expressed it wasn't very wise (cor!) but saying there are too many spots, kind of is, same thing as saying she'd like to see more stripes. Different expression of same thing, and we have heard the other before.

Nick Fury might be Danver's love interest come to think of it; thought she looked quite afeared in the end credits that he'd actually called her! Oooh Thanos, you might need to buy a hat chuck, you match-maker you.

 

[Stigbob]

Oooh Thanos, you might need to buy a hat chuck, you match-maker you.

That's some George Lucas quality dialogue right there.

 

[Winterwalker]

@Stigbob--weak. Very weak. Dumping flying Leia in there, magically floating and defying the vacuum of space more or less represents the creative direction Disney was going with their reboot: garbage. Other than enjoying Ridley's charisma, the reboot has almost zero redemptive qualities.

A bit like comparing to Wonder Woman, to be fair. (None of these three share the same universe).

How does Danvers fit with Scarlet Witch, Black Widow .. these are the MCU lead roles is a better question? You do need to have seen the movie to compare, though <minor spoiler> that sequence in the trail of Danvers falling and getting back up again was exact same footage in the movie, seen in rapid flashback, about 5 seconds long.

It had much more to do with storytelling than virtue signalling .. this is who this is .. and while I can see the argument for that being a prob in TLJ (Holdo) Captain Marvel really didn't come over as social justice. She's too cool for school (a soldier, very capable and yes, likeable too) not a bad thing for a hero imo.

 

[Achilles7]

...That scene was a meme, nonsensically included because of the actresses death during production. ...

Smart-@ss reporting for duty: Wow! How many of them died & has someone filled out an on-set H&S report?! :O

Sorry...'just mocking you're (sick) grandma!

Where was I? Oh yes, I particularly like the exemplary 'lack of self-awareness' post above, where Stigbob claims to dislike "extremists"...you mean, like polarised individuals who disingenuously & expediently support one position despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary?

I think Stigbob is an habitual 'virtue-signaller' with no integrity whatsoever, but it's easy to make value judgements in this comfy, red leather Chesterfield armchair using a fake German accent...& he'll be "climbing mountains" too...with his wife?! (Meh, I'll let that one go) More likely, a small hill or gassy knoll, methinks. But let's give him the benefit of the doubt & additionally, let's also hope that he doesn't fall & have to gnaw off his arm after getting it trapped under a boulder - btw fyi, the record is 127 hours...'might as well aim to get in the 'Guinness Book of World Records' if the worst - God forfend - should happen, imho!

 

[Alien]

Smart-@ss reporting for duty: Wow! How many of them died & has someone filled out an on-set H&S report?! :O

Sorry...'just mocking you're (sick) grandma!

Where was I? Oh yes, I particularly like the exemplary 'lack of self-awareness' post above, where Stigbob claims to dislike "extremists"...you mean, like polarised individuals who disingenuously & expediently support one position despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary? &#55357;&#56834;

I think Stigbob is an habitual 'virtue-signaller' with no integrity whatsoever, but it's easy to make value judgements in this comfy, red leather Chesterfield armchair using a fake German accent...& he'll be "climbing mountains" too...with his wife?! (Meh, I'll let that one go) More likely, a small hill or gassy knoll, methinks. But let's give him the benefit of the doubt & additionally, let's also hope that he doesn't fall & have to gnaw off his arm after getting it trapped under a boulder - btw fyi, the record is 127 hours...'might as well aim to get in the 'Guinness Book of World Records' if the worst - God forfend - should happen, imho!

I agree. It's like the irony in Obi-Wan's line to Anakin "Only the Sith deal in absolutes". To me it sums up the SJW/Anti-SJW war perfectly. Both sides are guilty of the very things they accuse of the other side of.

 

[jasonbarron]

Smart-@ss reporting for duty: Wow! How many of them died & has someone filled out an on-set H&S report?! :O

Sorry...'just mocking you're (sick) grandma!

Where was I? Oh yes, I particularly like the exemplary 'lack of self-awareness' post above, where Stigbob claims to dislike "extremists"...you mean, like polarised individuals who disingenuously & expediently support one position despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary? 

I think Stigbob is an habitual 'virtue-signaller' with no integrity whatsoever, but it's easy to make value judgements in this comfy, red leather Chesterfield armchair using a fake German accent...& he'll be "climbing mountains" too...with his wife?! (Meh, I'll let that one go) More likely, a small hill or gassy knoll, methinks. But let's give him the benefit of the doubt & additionally, let's also hope that he doesn't fall & have to gnaw off his arm after getting it trapped under a boulder - btw fyi, the record is 127 hours...'might as well aim to get in the 'Guinness Book of World Records' if the worst - God forfend - should happen, imho!

Good catch, CMDR Correct Grammar! That's what I get for posting on my phone whilst sitting on the can

 

[Stigbob]

@Stigbob--weak. Very weak. Dumping flying Leia in there, magically floating and defying the vacuum of space more or less represents the creative direction Disney was going with their reboot: garbage. Other than enjoying Ridley's charisma, the reboot has almost zero redemptive qualities.

Its not my fault you are woefully unfamiliar with Star Wars.

 

[Stigbob]

Smart-@ss reporting for duty: Wow! How many of them died & has someone filled out an on-set H&S report?! :O

Sorry...'just mocking you're (sick) grandma!

Where was I? Oh yes, I particularly like the exemplary 'lack of self-awareness' post above, where Stigbob claims to dislike "extremists"...you mean, like polarised individuals who disingenuously & expediently support one position despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary? 

I think Stigbob is an habitual 'virtue-signaller' with no integrity whatsoever, but it's easy to make value judgements in this comfy, red leather Chesterfield armchair using a fake German accent...& he'll be "climbing mountains" too...with his wife?! (Meh, I'll let that one go) More likely, a small hill or gassy knoll, methinks. But let's give him the benefit of the doubt & additionally, let's also hope that he doesn't fall & have to gnaw off his arm after getting it trapped under a boulder - btw fyi, the record is 127 hours...'might as well aim to get in the 'Guinness Book of World Records' if the worst - God forfend - should happen, imho!

Last time you had a meltdown about me you copped a forum ban for getting overly and weirdly personal. To be honest this ones a little tame, new medication ?.