Increase starting credits

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Pisiyat

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New morning, new debate? not really...but a good suggestion...

Since everyone will "go infinite" in 2-3 weeks, and anarchic systems are joke.

Why not save us the trouble and start the game with 1.000.000 CR each pilot, everyone is happy, no complains on forums, no need to spend time programming weird mechanics or protective measures.

Here's a good scenario:

Dev X:

Hmm, Cargo Insurance? sounds like a good idea, some people suggested that in forums.

Dev Y:

But realism? Which insurance company pays cargo insurance to open universe with anarchic systems? It won't fit Elite.

Dev X:

Doesn't matter, they are customers, they backed this project, they request it, we'll implement it and make up a story later on.

Player with brain:

Oh wait, I can tell my pirate buddy to wait at Eranin 2, I fill the cargo with Gold, he kills me, I get my insurance, and he gets the Gold. Perfect setup. We can both go infinite in 3 days now yay !

Plus, I will kill my pirate buddy afterwards who already killed me 500 times for insurance and collect his bounty as well, then we share the profit. Win-Win.

Conclusion:

Why bother? give everyone 1.000.000 CR, you'll save yourself from a lot of unnecessary programming.

Let the "he is scum" posts begin...
 
If you want to engage in serious discussion stop treating the game as if it

- is finished
- is about making cash
- should be a clone of some other current MMORPG space game

If you don't like testing the beta by playing it, stop testing it.
 
This thread seems like it has been started just to encourage flaming and arguments. Unless its constructive and good suggestions are made then there's no point in going further with this.

I would suggest this thread be closed, its not going to get anywhere constructive and the points that are kind of raised are being discussed elsewhere.
 
I'm really starting to hope the OP goes "infinite" very soon and saves us from his "pearls of wisdom".
 

Pisiyat

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What kind of game do you want?

*beautiful (this is you)
*realistic
*uncheatable

*all above (this is me)

This thread seems like it has been started just to encourage flaming and arguments. Unless its constructive and good suggestions are made then there's no point in going further with this.

I would suggest this thread be closed, its not going to get anywhere constructive and the points that are kind of raised are being discussed elsewhere.
 
What kind of game do you want?

*beautiful (this is you)
*realistic
*uncheatable

*all above (this is me)
Yet you insist on starting Threads about aspects of the game which are tuned for a beta version that you want changed.

Is the game easy, yes.
Does this make it easier for testers to do things quickly that may well take a lot longer to achieve? Yes, because it means that more testers get more things tested which is the purpose of a beta test.

Stop complaining about the level of challenge in the game, the challenge of beta testing is finding the bugs.
 

Pisiyat

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I have some fears, that's all. I want devs to learn from other fail mmorpg mistakes and not repeat them.

Trust me, if I didn't love Elite, i wouldn't bother.

I'm not trolling, although my word choices are not of your liking. We all try to do bits and pieces of advice to make the game more beautiful, sometimes with sarcasm, that's all.

Yet you insist on starting Threads about aspects of the game which are tuned for a beta version that you want changed.

Is the game easy, yes.
Does this make it easier for testers to do things quickly that may well take a lot longer to achieve? Yes, because it means that more testers get more things tested which is the purpose of a beta test.

Stop complaining about the level of challenge in the game, the challenge of beta testing is finding the bugs.
 
I have some fears, that's all. I want devs to learn from other fail mmorpg mistakes and not repeat them.

Trust me, if I didn't love Elite, i wouldn't bother.

I'm not trolling, although my word choices are not of your liking. We all try to do bits and pieces of advice to make the game more beautiful, sometimes with sarcasm, that's all.

Who are you to think the Devs need to learn from you.

Please stop these trollish posts.

Mods can you please close this thread as it is a differently worded title that follows the OP's previous one criticising the game as being too easy. We all know it's a beta but this OP seems to be getting off on restarting threads to cause flames and not contribute.
 
New morning, new debate? not really...but a good suggestion...

Since everyone will "go infinite" in 2-3 weeks, and anarchic systems are joke.

Why not save us the trouble and start the game with 1.000.000 CR each pilot, everyone is happy, no complains on forums, no need to spend time programming weird mechanics or protective measures.

this is silly, IF everyone will go infinite in 2-3 weeks there no need to increase anything at all, but rather decrease ;p
 

Pisiyat

Banned
Who are you to command the mods to close a thread with no offensive content?

I paid this game just as you and have my right to say couple words, now go elsewhere.

Who are you to think the Devs need to learn from you.

Please stop these trollish posts.

Mods can you please close this thread as it is a differently worded title that follows the OP's previous one criticising the game as being too easy. We all know it's a beta but this OP seems to be getting off on restarting threads to cause flames and not contribute.
 
New morning, new debate? not really...but a good suggestion...

Since everyone will "go infinite" in 2-3 weeks, and anarchic systems are joke.

Why not save us the trouble and start the game with 1.000.000 CR each pilot, everyone is happy, no complains on forums, no need to spend time programming weird mechanics or protective measures.

Here's a good scenario:

Dev X:

Hmm, Cargo Insurance? sounds like a good idea, some people suggested that in forums.

Dev Y:

But realism? Which insurance company pays cargo insurance to open universe with anarchic systems? It won't fit Elite.

Dev X:

Doesn't matter, they are customers, they backed this project, they request it, we'll implement it and make up a story later on.

Player with brain:

Oh wait, I can tell my pirate buddy to wait at Eranin 2, I fill the cargo with Gold, he kills me, I get my insurance, and he gets the Gold. Perfect setup. We can both go infinite in 3 days now yay !

Plus, I will kill my pirate buddy afterwards who already killed me 500 times for insurance and collect his bounty as well, then we share the profit. Win-Win.

Conclusion:

Why bother? give everyone 1.000.000 CR, you'll save yourself from a lot of unnecessary programming.

Let the "he is scum" posts begin...

Just no.
 
Who are you to command the mods to close a thread with no offensive content?

I paid this game just as you and have my right to say couple words, now go elsewhere.

Who are you to tell me to go elsewhere.

I paid this game just as you and have my right to say couple words, now go elsewhere.

You reworded this thread to open a second thread complaining about exactly the same things as you complained about in your first thread, as that would in no way help with the beta testing aspect of this game I asked for it to be closed, not commanded, and I repeat that request.
 

Pisiyat

Banned
This thread is about increasing starting credits, with some sarcasm involved.

But, you know what, understand what you want to understand.

Who are you to tell me to go elsewhere.

I paid this game just as you and have my right to say couple words, now go elsewhere.

You reworded this thread to open a second thread complaining about exactly the same things as you complained about in your first thread, as that would in no way help with the beta testing aspect of this game I asked for it to be closed, not commanded, and I repeat that request.
 
No

game does not need to be made easier!

Oh it's sarcasm i hear you say? you really want the game harder?

I believe there was another thread about that.. so is this thread a bit of sideways progression to that other thread?
 
This thread is about increasing starting credits, with some sarcasm involved.

I seem to remember people asked for the same thing in one of the Alphas when making money was "too hard", and FD obliged by dropping a whole bunch of credits on people so they could test properly.

The current level of progress is clearly pitched too "easy" so that people can test/play without spending weeks of grinding to do so. There's zero chance that this speed of progress will be carried through into the finished game so I'd stop worrying about it if I were you.

Difficulty in respect of AI behaviour etc. is another matter of course.
 
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