They're immune to ECM's too, since high capacity packhounds have six volleys per magazine. They can just fire one, wait for the ECM, then hit you with five volleys during your abysmal ECM cooldown.
Only way to be kind of safe is to fit four ECM's, set a hotkey, and just spam them one after the other. Even then, they can still hit you at close range regardless of what defenses you have.
Also funny that missiles generally delete utility mounts first.
This.....this is the sound of someone who doesn't know how to deflect and understand missile damage. You shouldn't lose your utility mounts first in a FAS, unless you're being careless and can't fly the ship to the point that you leave your underbelly exposed to missile based weapons. Though, pilots who are doing this are also letting themselves get their canopies shot out and their plants penned by Spen railguns. So, it makes sense that those who are N00bs will suffer to these anti-hull tactics.
This comment reminds me of the chats on the ED Balance server. I wonder why?
1: the FAS is the weakest of the Federal Murderbricks to Missile damage, that's for sure. She shares the same utility locations as the FDS, but lacks the ability to deflect hits on superstructure.
>Out of the 3, she's the worst at this.
2: The FAS does have the benefit of being the best of the three, (by a small margin,) at rolling to place her arcs into the LOF for her PD mounts though. A competent FAS pilot can easily do this at 1 Kilometer or more. And, also is more easily able to close the distance on packhound users to dead zone the hounds inside their arming range.
>A tactic sorely forgotten by those who are incompetent and META, sadly.
3: With a 5D MRP, the FAS still has incredibly long, longevity when faced with missile based weaponry. Double stacking makes her weaker due to the way the MRPs deteriorate. She can run similar hull to a fully tanked up FGS (actually more, to be fair.) So, if built with a heat sink, 1 booster, and 2 missile defense utility, she has no problem taking missile users head on.
4:While, she does suffer in the thermal capacity and dissipation rates in comparison to her sister craft. (Lower Capacity than the FDS, with slightly lower dissipation than an FGS due to the smaller distributor,) she has the ability to be more focused on quick silent running, utility, builds that make extensive use of heat sinks. In that regard, a FAS pilot with any modicum of skill should be relatively immune to being even locked regularly by a ship with heat seekers.
Conclusion:
Any FAS pilot regularly losing their guns to missiles needs to sorely re-evaluate their skill as a pilot. Packhounds do less damage in full salvos than Seeker missiles do, and if a FAS pilot is under fire from a packhound enough to cause him or her to panic and let their modules get shot out, then I kindly suggest that FAS pilot return to a sidewinder and practice the basics of this game in Eravate in Solo play.
Lest they go and gank in Deciat to the point that they decide that shield stacking is the only way, and wrack up bounties that they can't pay off and need to consider doing the unthinkable.
And pack-hounds are pretty much immune to point defense based on shear numbers alone, correct?
Actually, no. No they are not. You can PD hounds down rather easily if you keep an orbit of 1k to 2k or more. Two PD is more than adequate protection.
Double ECM is also a viable option, similar to a chaff mount.
Being able to establish an orbit in a FAS is crucial to her survival against missile based users.
"Kiting," or rather, "Psuedo Kiting" (as the META pilots call it Kiting if you're literally just running away and not firing back, which isn't actually kiting, that's just fleeing,) actually leaves you at a disadvantage in this situation as you're taking all the pressure off of the missile based opponent.
The more time you give them, the more you suffer.
However, if you're a pilot with any degree of skill, you shouldn't need to use PD or ECM against a missile user. (Not even against premium 13th Legion spammers.)
Knowing how to fly a Hull Tank and build it intelligently is half the battle:
[video=youtube;aEDDHTZkheM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEDDHTZkheM[/video]
In fact, I would wager that the main thing holding them back, is themselves.
