Fully agree and I think most here don't have a problem with the OP complaining about the quality of work regarding the ship kits. What has irked some, including myself, is the assertation in the OP that anyone who disagrees with the opinion of the OP is a 'White Knight', and therefore their opinion doesn't matter. That statement changed the topic from a discussion to myopic, narrow minded view, basically implying that any view that differs from the OP's will not be tolerated in this thread.
Fully agree and I think most here don't have a problem with the OP complaining about the quality of work regarding the ship kits. What has irked some, including myself, is the assertation in the OP that anyone who disagrees with the opinion of the OP is a 'White Knight', and therefore their opinion doesn't matter. That statement changed the topic from a discussion to myopic, narrow minded view, basically implying that any view that differs from the OP's will not be tolerated in this thread.
I can see that as well in the comment however this forum tends to have plenty who tell you to like it or find something different to do, almost an attempt to stifle any dissent related to the game. While I don't care to hear whining without suggestions for making things better, I do see some concern regarding quality in the OP and eventually that has to be a positive for the game. It could have been phrased more diplomatically however.
You absolute hypocrite.
Remember the sexual assault/r*pe discussion as regards to 'non-consensual PvP' and your insistence that interpretation and common understanding of a term absolutely didn't apply in that case.
But now it does, because it suits you.
Hate to break it to you but accepting one innuendo while rejecting another one isn't hypocrisy.
I happen to agree with Riverside.
I am perfectly willing to accept the innuendo of the term "white knight" but I think it's window-licking to try and suggest there must be anything implicit in using the term "non-consensual" to describe anything, beyond the fact that it means it means you didn't consent to it.
Your interpretation was also moderated I believe, possibly hinting that it is an unreasonable one.
ETA found Zarek's post:
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Well, that's kind of like saying "i'm not voting for president because my one vote won't make a difference".
Truthfully though I don't care so much what my ships LOOK like, within reason of course, as long as they are fun to fly. BUT, that said I have purchased a couple of items (a paint job for one ship and a bobble-head) just to put some money into the game.
I've spent so many hours having fun in this game for very little money I figured I should give a little back.
If we don't they won't be able to keep us flying........
Not sure about that.
If FDev want to earn money from ED, it's on them to produce paid-content that players are likely to feel compelled to purchase.
The fact that they seem to be happy with a 2 year gap before they release any such paid-content suggests they don't feel any urgent need to generate more income.
Arguably that they don't produce more 'good quality' (subjective term) cosmetics is probably a good indicator too. The nicest (subjective term) paintjobs I have are the exclusive free ones.
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
Actually, THIS is more what I meant when I said I don't care about ship looks so much. If the rest of you could actually SEE customized ships I would care what quality the kits were. And I would purchase some of them, IF I thought they looked nice. Just for me though? Nope.
Agreed about OP's assertion about those he defined as WKs where he also implied they were responsible somehow for his perception of shoddy standards of the ship kits. I also don't think it makes sense about another assertion that FD designs shipkits and paintjobs based on forum posts presumably by "WKs" "defending" them. I'd think it would go by past sales. A poor designer of shipkits which didn't sell probably wouldn't be tasked much longer with doing them. For myself I've bought only one regular ship paintjob outside of the limited edition seasonal ones. I've bought two shipkits and have acknowledged back then part of the cutter shipkit covers a nametag space. (I just stated that plainly if FD happened to see it. I didn't go as far to say "FD, shame on you, (like this thread bait title), sniff your nose to EBL poo!" And it's funny that OP earlier in the thread labels Stigbob as one of those with "lowered standards" of shipkits and paintjobs when now it's known that he doesn't buy any cosmetics!
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Cosmetic stuff is nice but only FDev know how much they're making from it, and whether that's enough to support future development of the game in lieu of any "proper" new paid-content.
I'd hate to think that there was somebody at FDev Towers thinking "Crikey, if ED doesn't start making more money then we'll have to shut it down" and then just, erm, carried on doing exactly what they were already doing, in the hope that they'd somehow generate extra revenue, cos that'd suggest a complete absence of business-sense.
During FY2018 (Jun '17 to May '18) FDev made £4m from Elite's cosmetics sales, contributing to Elite Dangerous' overall revenues of £22m (cosmetics, basegame, Horizons) - the best year for the game's revenues.
FDev's broker Liberum are projecting roughly £13m in overall revenues for Elite Dangerous during FY2019 (ending this coming May), and an increase to around £16m in FY2020.
Braben and co are very happy with Elite's future earning while the devteam are busy developing the upcoming events/CGs, small interim updates, and 2020's New Era.
Space legs....Space legs....Space legs. Bring it David B.
From the Wiki:
In the Elite Dangerous Development Plan video (December 14, 2012), David Braben talks about walking on planets, animals, being a big game hunter. The ships have been designed with interiors in mind. For example walk around in ships, other people's ships, stations and vehicles in the future.[2] Multicrew and Holo-Me are the foundation for space legs.
Those types of plans are why i'm willing to part with some of my real life dollars from time to time. Those things can't happen without a bit of funding.
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I am not a politician, not here to persuade anyone or move the masses. There is nothing wrong with my attitude and my wording especially given the half baked state of the game. It perfectly conveys how I feel about this and my intent. That you people like it or not.
I play elite dangerous, not forum ego coaster.
Now, back to the point instead of those smokes and mirrors.
I posted it in discussion to give food for thought on an observation I made: the developers handle the game development poorly and the community is also responsible being passive and not voicing their disappointment when FD makes such blatant displays of laziness. That is my reasoning to explain why ED has so many things that leave to be desired. Lousily made kits are only the tip of the iceberg.
Do whatever you want about this, buy whatever you want. I just remind you that silently accepting any piece of stale bread like a beggar will fill the game with stale bread.
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I'm not sure those numbers are as encouraging as you think they are, TBH.
If we deduct the revenue generated by cosmetics, we can see that ED made £18m during 2017/2018, while Beyond was in progress.
We can also see that it's predicted to make £9m during 2018/2019.
Given that 6 months of the 2018/2019 FY also occured while beyond was in progress, those 6 months should have generated £9m in revenue, based on the previous year's results.
The implication being that ED will actually generate ZERO revenue (aside from cosmetics) for the remaining 6 months of this FY.
And then, with that in mind, the predictions for 2020 are, frankly, just batshit crazy.
They seem to predict that ED's revenue will plummet to almost zero in 2019.
We know that there is going to be no new significant content throughout 2019 and into the first half of 2020.
So, what's going to provoke this increase in sales during a year when there's absolutely chuff-all to encourage people to buy the game?
And creating a thread telling everyone that if they disagree with you is harming the game and being a lackey of FD is just trolling.
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So far nobody has been able to convince me my opinion is wrong. Quite the opposite actually.