The new update broke piracy(Again?)?

jonesskill

jonesskill
Now the npcs just fly straigh like 3-4 KM, turn back and try to shoot, fly away again.

They are flying really strange, and since now pp disable is something that don't happen anymore, HOW to get the precious cargo if npcs don't stop anymore (Even to shoot at you).
 

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Haven't noticed this at all, been attacked twice in 5 minutes and they were shooting at me just fine.
 

IndigoWyrd

IndigoWyrd
jonesskill said:
Now the npcs just fly straigh like 3-4 KM, turn back and try to shoot, fly away again.

They are flying really strange, and since now pp disable is something that don't happen anymore, HOW to get the precious cargo if npcs don't stop anymore (Even to shoot at you).
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How about that new Drag effect, hmm?
 

jonesskill

jonesskill
S~P said:
Haven't noticed this at all, been attacked twice in 5 minutes and they were shooting at me just fine.
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I will make a video about it, thirrd NPC i have interdicted and they all just run away in circles, one T9, one t7 and now a asp scout.
 

jonesskill

jonesskill
Ory'Hara said:
Oh my god no more unskilled shield taking B.S. piracy, you might actually have to learn to fly??? o_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_O
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Dunno if you know, but limpets don't collect cargo if you are moving (Actually they collect but they just explode the cargo before it goes to the cargo hatch);

Also, spreading the cargo in 8km radius will make piracy even less profitable than it used to be.

BTW - not on topic BUT - If you want to learn how to fly im ready to kick you ass ingame in teach you some.
 

jonesskill

jonesskill
Ory'Hara said:
for reference: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/one-for-the-pirates.466836/
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Don't get the point, so, now we have npcs with poweplants that can be destroyed but they will still fly like if nothing happened AND a PLUS of a NPC that fly in circles and don't sit still.

Like i said, just make things worse. How in the hell this can be good at any point to you comment
"Oh my god no more unskilled shield taking B.S. piracy, you might actually have to learn to fly??? o_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_O "
 

jonesskill

jonesskill
Attack Chimp said:
Oh yeah. Now It's getting interesting.

BTW, the video isn't loading.
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Strange man, i can see the video by clicking in the link.
But basically: the npc fly in a straight line until 6-8km, turn back and fly again in a straight line and so on, he never stops even if you take down the drives or the poweplant.
 

jonesskill

jonesskill
Attack Chimp said:
The patch notes did include changes to AI. "Pirate AI will now act accordingly...."

Maybe the vic NPC AI reverted to an earlier, less dynamic, version. Just a guess.
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Yeah, probably.

But this is sad.
Since now piracy can be decreted DEAD, unless they fix the limpets allowing they to collect while the ship is moving fast.
RN is impossible to collect cargo at 10/Ms
 

Ory'Hara

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I was referring not primarily to the first post of the thread, but the whole ensuing discussion, if you read the whole thing. Basically addressing the fact that shield-tanking sit-stilling "piracy" is more akin to picking up pieces of candy as a toddler throws them at you than it is to any type of piracy, along with suggestions of alternate methods to regain your testicular integrity.

Now if shooting out drives no longer does anything, that's a whole separate issue.
 

IndigoWyrd

IndigoWyrd
jonesskill said:
They will not boost(WOW, great!) but will still fly in circles, not sit and shoot, like they used to do.
How this will contribute to the post or to the problem?
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Well it contributed quite a bit in the sharing of your experience testing them out. Though you didn't happen to mention if it slowed down their turning around or not - or perhaps you just left that off to continue with the snide tone which kind of makes me not care any longer - see how that works out? I was trying to make a contribution here, stimulate the thought process, maybe even have a discussion about techniques and tactics, you seem to have some other agenda. So good luck to ya, work it out.
 

jonesskill

jonesskill
IndigoWyrd said:
Well it contributed quite a bit in the sharing of your experience testing them out. Though you didn't happen to mention if it slowed down their turning around or not - or perhaps you just left that off to continue with the snide tone which kind of makes me not care any longer - see how that works out? I was trying to make a contribution here, stimulate the thought process, maybe even have a discussion about techniques and tactics, you seem to have some other agenda. So good luck to ya, work it out.
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I think that your objective with that post is complain about the drag ammunition like every pvper want to do right now, my guess when i read your comment is: WOW hell, another one talking about drag drives even in a Piracy PVE post. (Something like: "LOOK Drag ammunitions are so OP, use they on PVE piracy too")

Sorry if i am wrong, but NOT seems to be the case.
 

IndigoWyrd

IndigoWyrd
jonesskill said:
I think that your objective with that post is complain about the drag ammunition like every pvper want to do right now, my guess when i read your comment is: WOW hell, another one talking about drag drives even in a Piracy PVE post. (Something like: "LOOK Drag ammunitions are so OP, use they on PVE piracy too")

Sorry if i am wrong, but NOT seems to be the case.
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You are, and it's OK. I get it with being fed up with incessant complaining around here too. Personally I don't really have any plans on using them myself. I've done plenty of PvE Piracy, and never fired a single shot. I just use a fast ship, limpets and occasionally a little ramming to catch a target. Pinned a mining ship full of platinum against an asteroid once and emptied their cargo hold while they were stuck there.

And who said anything about Drag Drives? I was talking about the munitions effect with the added bonus of jamming Boosts.. but perhaps it's just the frustration talking there, which, as I said, I get.
 
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