Player affecting factions even in Pvt and Solo

[3Times4]

It is incorrect that players playing Solo and Private can alter the balance of Factions in a system.

This way people are not inactivated to play OPEN. This is a pity of course because one of the key performance of a Multi Mass Player Game is the chance of interacting with other players.

This is a major drawback of this game which I hope the developers team will pick up.

Thanks,

 

[mp4x]

This has been discussed a lot. The proposition of removing it from Solo and PG has also been discussed, including by FD staff.

 

[GreyAreaUK]

Keep in mind there are many players who cannot choose any mode other than Solo. They have as much right to affect the BGS as Open players.

Power Play being restricted to Open may have some traction, however.

 

[Robert Maynard]

In the Background Simulation and Scenarios stream the Devs were quite clear that the BGS is for all players, regardless of platform or game mode.

Frontier's stance on this topic does not appear to have changed since they originally published the design information for the game in November 2012.

 

[Phisto Sobanii]

What follows comes from a former Open zealot. I once thought as you did.

The modes system, and the effect it has on the BGS, is fundamentally baked into the vision of the game. While FDEV could change it, the likelihood of it is extremely low.

On the bright side, the more experience you get with the game and playing the BGS you'll find this isn't really that big of a problem. There are all kinds of ways to oppose your foes - no matter what mode they play in!

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

IF you want this fight I suggest you champion PP going open only as that may be a winnable fight.****
The BGS is for everyone.

*** If PP goes open only I hope they remove all PP targets littering my instance. I don't want things refering to features not in my game.

 

[Drelthar]

I dunno, I think the incentive for players to play in open, is wanting to play in open.

 

[babelfisch]

This has been discussed a lot. The proposition of removing it from Solo and PG has also been discussed, including by FD staff.

The first part is true, the latter not.

 

[Dillon Fallon]

Don't forget the positives that some player factions would see from people like me in solo. Right now I'm based in the home system of one such group. I'm on PS4 and they're on PC so I've not been bothered contacting them. However, as they are almost always in boom, investment or expansion, their faction generally has the high paying missions, so I am doing some them small benefit in helping their bubble domination plans.

If I did decide to make a nuisance of myself, there's nothing they could do about it anyway due to the lack of cross play right now.

 

[Phisto Sobanii]

Gosh, I'm not a developer of course, but I think cross play would be a way better use of FDEV's time and money than changing the modes system!

 

[CMDR Cosmic Spacehead]

The BGS is for everyone.

Plus, there's no single server model so instancing means there's a good chance people in Open can operate without meeting other people in Open.
Plus the BGS is shared across platforms, so all three can be in Open, and not meet, due to lack of crossplay.

I support Open only PowerPlay, but it's not really possible to make the BGS open only, when everything a CMDR does effects the BGS.

 

[Dillon Fallon]

Gosh, I'm not a developer of course, but I think cross play would be a way better use of FDEV's time and money than changing the modes system!

I do think sometimes think whether I should say hello and ask if they need any murdering doing. Being able to see them in game would probably be the push I need.

 

[Phisto Sobanii]

I support Open only PowerPlay, but it's not really possible to make the BGS open only, when everything a CMDR does effects the BGS.

I remind myself often the BGS is "Background Simulation." Gaming it like we do is emergent and likely never intended.

Which is fine, but that means we've got to suck it up regarding the modes. We made our bed by playing it this way, time to lie in it and get on with the sexy rumpus!

 

[EponymousCowherd]

Can anyone guess what will happen if Solo and PG players are forced into Open play in order to take part in Power Play?

 

[Dommarraa]

If they were forced into open, and you fought them with pvp, you would lose even more biggly than you do right now. PVP is not an effective use of time for the bgs.

Oh hang on, you allready know this, and dont actually care about bgs, you just want more people to provide your entertainment. Tough.

 

[Nadreck]

If Solo players couldn't affect the BGS, this would allow me to milk a lucrative trade route forever. The drying-up of trade routes is a consequence of the BGS reacting to the movement of thousands of tons of commodities, by players in all modes.

 

[aRJay]

Can anyone guess what will happen if Solo and PG players are forced into Open play in order to take part in Power Play?

Until your last eight words I would have said lots of rage quitting, for the whole thing nothing significant outside changes in the distribution of salt in the forum.

 

[Para Handy]

It is incorrect that players playing Solo and Private can alter the balance of Factions in a system..........

Here we go again ....

 

[CMDR Zadian Lichtfrost]

Can anyone guess what will happen if Solo and PG players are forced into Open play in order to take part in Power Play?

Even less players participating in Power Play?

"Do it so!"

 

[Phisto Sobanii]

Can anyone guess what will happen if Solo and PG players are forced into Open play in order to take part in Power Play?

If they made that change with the rest of the changes in Sandro's initial proposal because please let's stop forgetting Open Only Powerplay was one part of the whole thing it could be pretty interesting. You'd have to organize more, communicate more, do all the stuff you do when working as a team to succeed.

I feel it would be a more interesting, lively part of the game. An improvement over what we have now, for sure. I also really believe it would give a lot of PvPers something fun to do.

For me personally it was something I did look forward too but now I'm happy in Colonia. Forget you, stupid powers!