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Searching for stuff is an integral part of the game, and using eddb, cannon or inara is like having a guide to complete an adventure game. My advice is, use those sparsely when you're stuck and the mecanism behind what you try to achieve doesn't make sense. They're invaluable resources when it comes to groups efforts like guardians or thargoids puzzle, but they can also simplify and reduce gameplay to your basic open world fetch quest, and it'll get old very fast.
I'm going to use the word UPSET so I don't get kicked off the forum.
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Searching for stuff is an integral part of the game, and using eddb, cannon or inara is like having a guide to complete an adventure game. My advice is, use those sparsely when you're stuck and the mecanism behind what you try to achieve doesn't make sense. They're invaluable resources when it comes to groups efforts like guardians or thargoids puzzle, but they can also simplify and reduce gameplay to your basic open world fetch quest, and it'll get old very fast.
OP, I think they consider it "content" to have you go searching blindly for modules and ships. Yes, you can filter for high tech systems to sometimes find what you need, but no guarantees it will be there or that the correct class you need will be there. So, you go to the next system, and the next, and the next, etc. Even shipyards, you have to go station-to-station looking for a ship and without 3rd party tools you are essentially guessing. It makes no sense that over 1,000 years in the future, no one has any idea where anything is at.
EDIT- it is also one of the main reasons players want elite status, to gain access to Shinrarta and Jameson.
EDIT- it is also one of the main reasons players want elite status, to gain access to Shinrarta and Jameson.
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As far as the first point is concerned... Not all ships are suitable for every activity. That is a given.
You can do asteroid mining in the T7, but just not the new stuff. The ship is what it is.
I occasionally think 'dammit, I should just look for modules as I visit stations'. 20 minutes later I realise I've been forgetting to check (or I'm annoyed by the animation taking me to outfitting at the stations), and it's back to inara / eddb / shinrarta / brestla. Ideally we'd be able to get parts shipped, and I'd even pay the premium for immediate delivery for parts (since it's pretty much possible IRL now).
That's why I use Trade Computer Extension Mk 2. It tracks all that stuff and makes a local database as I travel....so even if I forget to look, I have the information a hotkey away without exiting the game. I only have to use Inara/EDDB if I want to look beyond what places I have personally visited.
I love my T-7’s, both of them.
My first one I bought by accident, during the glorious Moira CG that overpaid by a factor of 100. Since I had vastly more credits than I expected, I kept it, and it’s served me as an excellent mid-sized freighter.
My second one, painted yellow and named “School” is loaded with economy cabins and makes a delightful people mover.
Both are maneuverable, fast, and serve their intended purposes. Prior to the NPC Flawless Mine Evasion buff, these ships were deadly to NPC’s. Since NPC’s gained flawless mine evasion neither has fired a single shot. They’re simply not combat viable.
My first one I bought by accident, during the glorious Moira CG that overpaid by a factor of 100. Since I had vastly more credits than I expected, I kept it, and it’s served me as an excellent mid-sized freighter.
My second one, painted yellow and named “School” is loaded with economy cabins and makes a delightful people mover.
Both are maneuverable, fast, and serve their intended purposes. Prior to the NPC Flawless Mine Evasion buff, these ships were deadly to NPC’s. Since NPC’s gained flawless mine evasion neither has fired a single shot. They’re simply not combat viable.
If you look at a ship in camera mode, you can SEE which ships can have an SLF hangar as they will have the hangar doors underneath even if the hangar itself is not equipped. not the best way to determine if a ship can carry an SLF, but a detail often overlooked.
All ships will have a cargo hatch and SRV hangar doors, some will have a cargo hatch, SRV hangar doors and SLF hangar doors.
All ships will have a cargo hatch and SRV hangar doors, some will have a cargo hatch, SRV hangar doors and SLF hangar doors.
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Agree, I wanted it for trading/boom/mining- I make a lot with it.The Type 7 is a trading ship with close to none combat abilities. Of course it has crappy hardpoints. It's not a fighter, not a miner, it's just a big, flyable box.
Elite doesn't take you by the hand, and as you already said, you did your research, but I can't really imagine how you got no usable information out of it.
When going from station to station ingame, taking a look at the shipyard would already tell you which hardpoints are available on ships you can buy.
When looking online, the search term "best cheap mining ship" got me places already without specially looking for anything.
No matter how many helpful and user friendly things are being added to the game, it still remains complex with a very steep learning curve, and with one month in you didn't even scratch the surface, which is just normal.
Try this to build your ship without purchasing it:
Coriolis EDCD Edition
A ship builder, outfitting and comparison tool for Elite Dangerouscoriolis.io
I'd try an Asp Explorer for mining if you want it cheap. Big doesn't mean it's better for everything, and the T7 just has a lot of space because... it's a freaking trading ship. Not an alrounder, not a combat ship. A trader.
The AspX has enough cargo space, hardpoints and module space to build a nice little miner and can also land on medium pads. Apart from that: stellar jump range and a great ship in any way. If you have the cash and really want to do some serious mining, I'd say go for a Python.
The UPSET part was EDDB telling me I could find the 5D hanger for the FAS-> list. That was the part that - well you know...
I know where are the cell phones to call and ask if they have the module in stock lol
“Thank you for calling the Shinrarta Dezhera shipyard, where we stock all ships and modules. How may we help you.”
None of this is fdev's fault. Fdev hasnt been hiding the T7 weapon specs from you. You can't fit a 5D hanger to a FAS, that's your fault not Fdevs. And EDDB is a third party website which Fdev allows to use their data. Data which appears to be correct, you just couldnt fit a 5D hanger so it wouldnt show up as an option.
So ... you picked a ship that cant take the mining weapons you wanted ... you picked a FAS that cant take a fighter bay ... and you blame fdev and eddb?
This forum just keeps on beating the OP ! He appreciated the error of his ways in post #22 !
Just as the pirate NPC says, "All of this can stop if you just give ...... OP, give the Mods the tip-off by saying "Mods please close this post." Unless there are compelling reasons to keep it open, they will oblige.
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Can't wait when he gets to the engineering part.
No they are not! There is one small hardpoint each side of the ship...
Sorry! I couldn't resisit it
To be fair to EDDB, it is just a big database. The stations it listed did in fact sell the FAS and fighter hangers, just not a fighter hanger for the FAS. You could ask it for stations that sell a sidewinder AND a 7A power plant. You would get results but that doesn’t mean the Sidewinder can use a 7A power plant. I admit that fighter hangers are more confusing, though.
EDDB did not tell you that you could find a 5D hanger for the FAS at the listed station, all it told you was that the listed station was selling both a 5D hanger and a FAS.
EDDB can not read your mind, for all it knew you were looking for a FAS, and a 5D hanger for a ship other than the FAS.
A list of stations that sell two different items, there is nothing in the selection process that says that the two items have to be compatible.
Your best option would be use one of the shipyard tools to design your ship Coriolis has a button to click that will send the design to EDDB as a shopping list.