Pure combat ship

Deekin Scalesinger

Deekin Scalesinger
I've done lots of combat in my days but always used mulipurpose ships except for the fer de lance. It's great and all but since i want to collect materials from my fallen enemies i need a different ship. The cargo scoop on the lance is akward as hell. I was thinking about krait mk2 or the alliance crusader. Want a fighter bay so these are options that are not complete bricks.
Any advice.
 

Mohrgan

Mohrgan
I come from the Vulture/FAS/aChief school of combat ship, so I don;t know much about the aCrusader. But, I do use a K-Mk II often. It is my go to multi/combat ship. The K-Mk II is quite agile, and has good firepower. I think it might be a good choice for an SLF ready combat ship.
 

Mohrgan

Mohrgan
Non Grata said:
Are collector limpets an option?
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I'm not sure exactly what you mean, but in most cases a Collector Limpet controller is always an option. Just buy one in outfitting, and stock up on limpets.

The aChief allows for easy scooping so I just do that.
 

Quantis Trap

Quantis Trap
The great things in this game is that you can do almost anything with almost any ship given enough engineering.

That said, I do had favorite combat ships. I do like the Kraits and the Aliance ships lately. I like the Vulture and the Vipers as combat ships, but only when engineered. I even like the Keelback, DBX and DBS for fighting. Never liked the FDL or the Corvette for some reason.
 
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Non Grata

Non Grata
Mohrgan said:
I'm not sure exactly what you mean, but in most cases a Collector Limpet controller is always an option. Just buy one in outfitting, and stock up on limpets.

The aChief allows for easy scooping so I just do that.
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I was just thinking that if you were to use collectors then you could stay in the FdL by avoiding the cargo scoop issue.
 

Mohrgan

Mohrgan
Non Grata said:
I was just thinking that if you were to use collectors then you could stay in the FdL by avoiding the cargo scoop issue.
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The FdL would have to give up a slot to the Controller, and another to a cargo bay to employ Limpets. That is far too many for a combat FdL to give up, by most accounts. Other ships have more flexibility, but two slots for collecting in anything other than a Large pad ships seems too much of a sacrifice.
 

Vedmo

Vedmo
I have both a Crusader and MKII built for combat. Without out a doubt I'd pick the MKII for what you want.

The Crusader will need the 5 & 6 optionals for shields and fighter hanger, leaving 3s and smaller for your collectors and cargo room. The MKII you can use a 5 or 6 for cargo depending on shield choice. All together I think it will just be affected less by giving up a couple of slots for cargo/collector.
 

Non Grata

Non Grata
Mohrgan said:
The FdL would have to give up a slot to the Controller, and another to a cargo bay to employ Limpets. That is far too many for a combat FdL to give up, by most accounts. Other ships have more flexibility, but two slots for collecting in anything other than a Large pad ships seems too much of a sacrifice.
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I've done it in a Krait easily enough. Granted a FdL would be more difficult, but it's only PvE so still quite doable.
 

Deekin Scalesinger

Deekin Scalesinger
Got the krait now and a rated it.

Went bounty hunting and suddenly the whole system authority mob ganged up on me. I have no fines nor bounties on me. I just checked . Weird....
 

Mohrgan

Mohrgan
You can get a Bounty that is not attached to a Murder crime, by you or your SLF accidentally hitting a freindly. There is a threshold, and it is fairly high, but doing enough damage and/or hitting a Hull of a friendly will get you chased out of a combat instance. Keep your eyes and ears peeled for getting a bounty like that, and immediately jump out of the instance.
 

Schmack

Schmack
Best mat hunting I've found is in anarchy systems that have visitor beacons. You can really do a lot of collateral damage there, killing big cruise ships and gathering all the ceramic materials. I use 9 limpets at a time there, it's so fertile. It's a great place to test those PAs or rails also.
 

Deekin Scalesinger

Deekin Scalesinger
Mohrgan said:
You can get a Bounty that is not attached to a Murder crime, by you or your SLF accidentally hitting a freindly. There is a threshold, and it is fairly high, but doing enough damage and/or hitting a Hull of a friendly will get you chased out of a combat instance. Keep your eyes and ears peeled for getting a bounty like that, and immediately jump out of the instance.
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I wasn't even near any system authority vessels. I was blasting away at a wanted DBX while the cops where far behind me occupied with another ship. Suddenly my radar went all red and everyone chased me. First i thought that the DBX was part of a wing.
 

Stealthie

Stealthie
Deekin Scalesinger said:
I'm leaning towards the krait mk2. Like the design of the crusader more though.
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Trouble with using the Krait for combat is, IIRC, both it's armor and shield "fiddle-factors" are worse than the Python.

Basically, if you like the idea of using a Krait for combat, objectively, you should probably buy a Python instead.
 

Mohrgan

Mohrgan
Stealthie said:
Trouble with using the Krait for combat is, IIRC, both it's armor and shield "fiddle-factors" are worse than the Python.

Basically, if you like the idea of using a Krait for combat, objectively, you should probably buy a Python instead.
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The Python still lacks an SLF, and handles like a turtle. The K-Mk II has the same firepower as the Python, but can get out of it's own way.
 

Junky Juke

Junky Juke
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