I think you nailed it.
Anaconda or Corvette?
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So you're not just begging for jump range, you're also begging for the Corvette to have even bigger combat advantages over the other three.
Not even close to what I was saying. I'm arguing for over all game balance, not pure buffs to specific ships. However that is achieved doesn't really matter to me. But to answer your question, it's one or the other, not both.
It has another pretty significant advantage over the Conda, it runs cooler. Either way you are entitled to your opinion, we are entitled to ours, both are subjective, as is personal experience.
Significant? Hmm, that's a bit of a stretch. The "baked in heat capacity" of each ship is as follows:
Anaconda: 493 "BTUs"
Corvette: 498 "BTUs"
A difference of about 1%
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/research-detailed-heat-mechanics.286628/
The practical difference is higher due to the different hardpoint layouts. The Conda's 3 larges and 1 huge tend to generate more heat than the 1 large and 2 huges on the Vette, depending on the weapons you use of course.
Vette has better shields with the same generator, and can equip bigger banks.
The extra armor the Conda is only a minor advantage.
Even assuming competent builds, and equally skilled pilots, the Vettes gonna win in a PvP encounter via tanking alone.
4500mj on a Conda = ~6000mj on the Vette, With the same generator. That’s before two size 7 shield banks(vs the condas size 6s) and maybe a 6.
Back to the T10... total PvE contender, man.
The extra armor the Conda is only a minor advantage.
Even assuming competent builds, and equally skilled pilots, the Vettes gonna win in a PvP encounter via tanking alone.
4500mj on a Conda = ~6000mj on the Vette, With the same generator. That’s before two size 7 shield banks(vs the condas size 6s) and maybe a 6.
Back to the T10... total PvE contender, man.
Yup, lower damage totals usually amount to less heat. Eg, putting all PAs in those slots results in 17% less heat per second but also 17% less DPS when comparing those 3 hardpoints to the 4 on the Conda. However, weapon choice, ToT ability, engineering mod, and environmental circumstances will overshadow almost any difference to the point where a 1% difference in heat capacity is negligible.
Side note: I just noticed from your sig that you have the same Vette name as mine! Named mine that way because it looks kinda like a sword from above, though the name is more bark than bite.
There are few things more satisfying than two huge multis that are just out of sync because of reload times.
Had a pair of rapid fires on my old PvE vette, and they were a blast to use.
Had a pair of rapid fires on my old PvE vette, and they were a blast to use.
Imho, if you want a ship to travel far and wide, the Conda is for you. For everything else I'd take the Vette. I had a Conda for about a year but sold it to buy a Vette after test driving it during the last beta. The Vette is now a big money maker for me. I have another ship for exploration now.
What do you want for it
You're arguing for homogenization rather than balance. The ships are already fairly well balanced within their role groups. You can't look at a Corvette and say "I need more jump range because of Condas" Conda isn't in the same role group as the Corvette, and neither is the Cutter. The only reason they are being compared is because they're of a similar size and price range.
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I fitted a C7 fuel scoop on my Corvette. I don't see the problem with my 18ly range anymore. It takes time to get from point A to point B, but I like the ship too much. I do buy the odd ship now and then and engineer it, but I always end up selling it and go back to the Corvette.
I have all the big 4(type 10 sux) a rated and fully g5 engineered and for pve combat the vette wins hands down and by a long shot. On average I take about 100 elite wing assasination missions a week by myself(system cops stopped helping me lol) and have tried all 3 out with similar loadouts of mostly oc mcs and lr beams. The vette takes elite fdls down faster and has more shields/scbs left at the end of a skirmish and turns significantly not marginally better. The cutter turns like a oil tanker and the condas not much better. The vette feels like a medium ship in its agility and I have no trouble nailing the 3-4 vultures after wasting the fdls even lil sideys are easy to swat down. I dont use turrets on any of my ships most have fixed but I do use some gimbals on large ships.
If I could clone myself 3x and face up against my clones piloting the other 3 i could likely take out all of them as a wing and still have a scb or 2 left....joking haha I'd prolly die
but 1v1 they'd be dead.
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I guess it depends what you use a 'vette for but both of mine have a jump-range of around 30Ly and that works fine for me.
One is a dedicated combat ship which I use for "peacekeeping" - in other words, keeping the BGS ticking along in the region near my home-system - and for difficult assassination missions.
The other gets used for mat' scavving and anything dubious.
If I was touring around the bubble, making things explode, a bigger jump-range might be desirable but 30Ly is plenty for how I use those ships.
Totally agree anything within the bubble is just fine for the vette. Mine has a 26.5ly range though that's from a lot of armor and heavy af lr sensors. I'm guessing his 18ly range is from not having a gfsdb.
Well, my Corvette is self-sufficient and nomadish at the moment, meaning I can and need to repair hull, modules and scoop fuel. I had to chose between a guardian FSD booster (which does bring it in the 28ly range) and an AFMU so I opted for the latter. It's mission oriented, and aside from mining, I "can do it all". I have cargo, srv, an interdictor etc. My main beef with the game atm is how I have to use 3 slots for 3 different limpet controllers (I currently have hatch breaker, collector and recon), when they could just create a limpet bay (working like a SLF bay, only with as many internals as the module class and price tag to match). To deploy your desired limpet, you just need to go to the helm menu, select the one you want and voilà. Pretty much how you deploy a fighter or SRV except you drop a limpet. They can either be 3D printed or needing cargo, it's not a problem. One can hope, right? But they really need to do something about the "limpet module proliferation". I can clearly see myself using a C7 limpet bay so I can fit a bit of everything.