The Star Citizen Thread V10
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Ah, i remember him saying he was likely to follow up this topic. Will be an interesting watch.
CIG deserves nothing but bashing, contempt and actual legal punishment.
From the start they were self proclaiming about becoming the chosen one savior of pc gaming that have moral superiority over other game developers but after 7 years they have proven themselves consistently delivering the opposite from what they proclaimed to be on every aspect of gaming development and customer interaction.
They have earned themselves their reputation and there's nothing offensive whatsoever if we're constantly bashing them and ridiculing them.
Let me add that, there's also every justification for us to strongly disagree at every claims they and their fans made about how they're supposedly not being worse than other gaming companies out there. Because all evidences tell us that they're actually worse than any other gaming companies out there.
The only one I can really think of that is anywhere close is the black paint jobs are only available around the holidays. And that isn't really that big of a deal.
Oh, and the Cobra Mk 4. But that is more pay to lose.
Now i have this cool 1980's "The Warriors" vibe with gangs meeting in an alley with a cool "combat" soundtrack beating in the background and then two of them meet in the middle and sit down for an epic tic-tac-toe fight.
triggered
Of all the "small" ships it has:
- The most optional internals
- The most amount of hardpoints
- Can carry the most cargo (92)
- Can be a fully fitted explorer due to all the internals
- Can be a fully fitted miner due to all the internals
- One out of three small ships that can actually be multi-crew
- Third place in hull hitpoints just behind the Vulture and Diamondback explorer who has the most of all small ships
- Can be one HELL of an armour tank (albeit a flying snail)
- Perfect multicrew ship with 3 small weapons on top that are perfect for being turrets
EDIT: I just cannot help but love the underdog.
This....omg so much this +1
"This seriel killer has murdered dozens of people factually and we dont know how many more corpses are out there on his behalf. His trial is an ongoing affair for 7 years now and pretty much all the facts that are available have been made public."
"you know the constant bashing and calling out for justice really becomes boring, what is it with the persistent lawmen doing their job? Why cant they move on and drop this already? Its old news...nobody cares and whats done is done right?"
Can you see the parallel to SC and CIG here? If you are going to post something like "so SC is a murder case now?" then just lol at you ^^
Star Citizen is pretty much old news by now. Whoever cares about it has made up his/her mind. Theres hardly anything new to discuss...nothing that would change SCs course anyway. Its mostly fluff and the only news about game critical mechanics and features are the delay announcements or people figuering out CIG once again dropped them silently because roadmaps which anybody can access and which are written so confusingly that it takes 10 minutes off your hands to go through them because once again....mostly fluff.
The fact remains that CIG has potentially wasted so much money and time and did so by shady business strategies that releasing an "okay" game now will not provide compensations in the eyes of most people who are in financially. CIG sold stuff on promises in the past and them changing these promises gradually over time until none remain or are so altered that they dont resemble anything of the past sales they were made on makes the company criminal or scammy in my book.
If you personally are "okay" with whats happening or your money probably being lost thats great for you. That doesnt mean that anybody else should feel the same. Also if you personally are tired of all the bashing or "hyporcrisy" you can always walk away and turn your attention to something more worthwhile.
I am riding this train to its end to see CIG getting their just reward. They have been the epitome of incompetence and criminal marketing tactics for me, putting recent scandals and outcries to shame and the only reason we dont have a verified crapstorm on our hands directed at CIG is because the game and its development are so niche that hardly anyone in the greater game community knows about it or cares enough to participate.
I dont care about any of the game developments because they wont change a thing in the end. So I dont have all the details down....dont have to. Still can post here as long as I m on-topic. Tired of my or any of the other bashing/sarcasm/joking? Feel free to walk away or ignore.
There is a miracle chance that Star Citizen will turn out a great game and a better chance it ll be "just" a game. I m prepared to admit my folly in one of those cases. The other doesnt warrent any apology from me. Releasing something so little, so broken and hardly resembling what was promised is not an achievement. Nothing I can see makes me believe the "great game" will ever happen so I remain skeptical and keep pointing fingers at the responsible factor.....CIG.
I agree that CIG has made this nest they are sitting in at the moment, crapped full and stinking. They deserve all the criticism and bashing for shoddy craftsmenship and lack of reliability. The SC community at large has been patient and very forgiving with the majoritiy keeping up with CIGs constant failures and breaking of promises. And as more and more people keep waking up the "same old stuff" is popping up and you know what?
Most of it is as relevant and appropriate as it was 2 years ago. The meager changes and improvements dont justify the involved timeframe and money spent.
If this thread has proven one thing beyond doubt is that theres hardly anything to discuss about Star Citizen. But when it comes to its community or the responsible company things suddenly get interesting and they also keep this thread alive. Just throw in another "haters gonna hate" comment or put in a completely irrelevant "but ED did it too" post and see the thread explode. Try to discuss relevant SC mechanics and news and everybody falls asleep.
For me...its either pure trolling or a desperate attempt of blind defense on behalf of a project that cannot defend itself or has anything that could counter any of the "hate" directed at it. I might post less but I wont stop watching this as it unfolds. I ll keep checking DS twitter feed and YT videos. After all this time I dont feel bad for wanting to know how this crapstorm of a journey ends. CIG collapsing and being called out as the scam it probably was for years by now is the least form of justice I expect. If you are only after Star Citizen relevant news and tired of all the back-and-forth you might increase your browsing experience by utilizing the ignore comment or simply filtering the stuff you find interesting (even tho that probably reduces the feed to 1 or 2 relevant posts in 5 pages or so.....)
That's a great rant, but it is still no reason for someone to be a hypocrite.
Wow. Let's take a step back.
P1: wow, they said "don't miss out!", how horrible of them! So terribly evil!
P2: errr, that is generic marketing language, FD does the same.
P3: but cig so evil!
P2: that is no reason to be a hypocrite.
P4: But CIG so evil!!!
P2: that is still no reason to be a hypocrite.
You: EPIC RANT ABOUT CIG BEING SO EVIL!!!!!!!!
Okay, great! But. that. Is. Still. No. Reason. To. Be. A. Hypocrite.
Every year you think the mindless rage can't get any more mindless... Oh well, don't let me stop you from posting another novel about this.
I think his point is,if evil FD can sell limited time skins for £5. CIG can sell limited timed things(that may or may not exist)for hundreds of £’s.
Ignoring the fact that there isn’t actually a game quite yet.
In my opinion the difference between limited items is that one company sells an unlimited amount over a time period while the other sells a limited number over a limited time period.
CIG will do things like 100x $1000 ships which are only available on Friday at 7PM EST. If you don't add one to your cart and hit the Pay Now! button fast enough you lose out. It's nothing more than complete psychological manipulation and it is quite sad to see people drawn in by it.
The secondary effect being that scalpers then inflate the prices on the grey market to try and cash in on those who missed out...
CIG will do things like 100x $1000 ships which are only available on Friday at 7PM EST. If you don't add one to your cart and hit the Pay Now! button fast enough you lose out. It's nothing more than complete psychological manipulation and it is quite sad to see people drawn in by it.
The secondary effect being that scalpers then inflate the prices on the grey market to try and cash in on those who missed out...
scratch head
yeah its kind of like some people take reminders and pointing out obvious flaws as personal attacks and gasp hypocrisy......
The grey market is always cheaper than the RSi store... even for CCU upgrades.
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The epic hypocrisy is CRoberts saying (paraphrasing) that CIG's business and game dev model is so much better than those evil AAA production companies. Never mind that those AAA companies take on all the risk up front and must release a game to recoup those costs, whereas CRoberts incurs no risk, has no financial imperative to release a game, and lines his own pockets from donations in the meantime.
Apropos of nothing, here are some fun stretch goals that nobody has mentioned in an age:
Just a fun backdrop to your daily Star Citizen conversing
Just a fun backdrop to your daily Star Citizen conversing
Public transport is already there tho. You can ride the tube all day long.Apropos of nothing, here are some fun stretch goals that nobody has mentioned in an age:
Just a fun backdrop to your daily Star Citizen conversing
And all that extra functionality is supposed to be funded by the money raised by the stretch goals.Apropos of nothing, here are some fun stretch goals that nobody has mentioned in an age:
Just a fun backdrop to your daily Star Citizen conversing
Kickstarter and Stretch goals are old testiment, they were belived by the people of the time but are now thought to be stroies - more a set of guidelines: VR, Linux, Mac, Modding, 100 systems, pets, no P2W, crafted story content, dynamic economy and living universe, amazing space battles with pilots jockying for position and watching each other's six, amazing AI where NPCs lives were apparantly processed in "real-time", organizations that protected their own bit of space, interesting progressive game-play developing your character etc.
The new testiment is 1 system with proc gen moons and a proc gen planet to look at, proc gen cities to walk around in third-person and look at NPCs walking into walls while you pull faces into a web-cam and wait for empty trains to stand on, a few missions where you listen to a radio story and pull the lever or pick up the box and take it to the man, FPS where enemy stand behind walls waiting to be shot, space battles where ships circle-strafe until the player that hammered the button fastest wins, lengthy quantum travel to walk around your ship and lots of micro transactions to decorate your ship with.
I was reading the design document to Privateer Online which apparantly was axed one year into development along with it's Wing Commander Online, it also promised massive multi-player with multi-crew roles, in built designer tools and 40 systems to explore. I guess, as with Freelancer, the "technologies" just wasn't right for the vision. I'm guessing Origin just stepped in and went "aah no, that's going to need some sort of actual scope other than - space and all things in it"
The new testiment is 1 system with proc gen moons and a proc gen planet to look at, proc gen cities to walk around in third-person and look at NPCs walking into walls while you pull faces into a web-cam and wait for empty trains to stand on, a few missions where you listen to a radio story and pull the lever or pick up the box and take it to the man, FPS where enemy stand behind walls waiting to be shot, space battles where ships circle-strafe until the player that hammered the button fastest wins, lengthy quantum travel to walk around your ship and lots of micro transactions to decorate your ship with.
I was reading the design document to Privateer Online which apparantly was axed one year into development along with it's Wing Commander Online, it also promised massive multi-player with multi-crew roles, in built designer tools and 40 systems to explore. I guess, as with Freelancer, the "technologies" just wasn't right for the vision. I'm guessing Origin just stepped in and went "aah no, that's going to need some sort of actual scope other than - space and all things in it"
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Not to the moon though!
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