Disquieting thoughts about the Frontier Store

Okay, so feel free to delete this if I'm massively over-stepping the line, but I just saw a video by Jim Sterling. He's certainly a loud character, and his style doesn't easily endear, but this video tells of the Loot Boxes and Microtransactions that run through the greater part of Competitive and Online gaming, and the Psychological damage that these gameplay mechanics can cause.

Now, I'm not suggesting that DBOBE and FDev are slavering over parting kiddies from their pocket money, or anything so extreme or ridiculous, but the existence of the Real-world Cosmetics shop does give me pause, even if coloured skins for your Shiny new 'Conda makes precisely zero difference in-game, apart from a sense of satisfaction.

Perhaps I'm over-thinking this, considering that E:D was crowdfunded from the get-go, and competitors charge much more, and are significantly less generous. And of course, one could make the argument that we're all adults here, and precious few, if any, commanders are going to drain their wallets getting Every last item in the shop, merely out of a sense of completeness.

Not to mention that the shop does its part to continue to fund further development of the game, alongside purchase of the Base Client, or the Horizons and future Season upgrades.

And I was lucky enough to be able to take advantage of the Lifetime pass when it was offered for £30. Plus, the overwhelming amount of goodwill, good humour, and a distinct lack of other predatory and/or destructive "Triple-A" practices, or "Crunch period" horror stories, from FDev in general.

I don't know where I'm going with this. Like I said, I probably have Massively over-stepped the mark, over-thought this whole issue, and the Skin store is most likely nothing that a Commander should really be worrying about.

But, I just, I'd love to be reassured that the Good folks of Frontier Developments aren't dead-set on turning players into payers.
 
Jim Sterling has a point (up to a point) when it comes to the most predatory practices out there, especially with regards to loot boxes and how they target individuals with severe impulse control problems...
But when it comes to outright selling cosmetics, there's nothing problematic as long as it's all open and transparent as the Frontier store is. You can argue that this stuff should be in the base game or that it's overprice etc.. but that's just a regular value for money discussion.
And I doubt Frontier will change anything and do shady stuff in the store. They're not exactly EA or Ubi who, from their experience with everybody claiming to hate them and still buying their games, know they can get away with a lot.
 
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IMO a huge overthinking. It is better to always be wary of falling into a buyer trap, but the FD store only holds cosmetics with no impact on gameplay.

That said, I did buy some items just because I've been playing the game for so long.
 
Didn't know who he was until I clicked on this thread.. Now I have to take back my claim that Yamiks is the worst Z-Lister on youtube.

I knew the name, but only because it has come up in a similar thread before. He has a style, I can see why he is as popular as he is and I like the wrestling component (ie he's prepared to accept the consequences of his contentious style).

Ideally with any sale both the buyer & sell will be happy with the deal. As long as people are happy there's no problem imo, and FDev seem consistent with their 'no pay to win' stance.
 
Jim Sterling has a point (up to a point) when it comes to the most predatory practices out there, especially with regards to loot boxes and how they target individuals with severe impulse control problems...
But when it comes to outright selling cosmetics, there's nothing problematic as long as it's all open and transparent as the Frontier store is. You can argue that this stuff should be in the base game or that it's overprice etc.. but that's just a regular value for money discussion

Yeah, I suppose. That's the difference, though, isn't it? E:D, much as we love it, isn't Fortnite. It's not, As far as I'm aware at least, a Public consciousness Juggernaut, or the "in" thing in the playgrounds of the nation. And maybe that's for the best.

And E:D are openly selling cosmetic skins, for a nominal fee, not to get you hooked, but to stay afloat. After all, we're talking about what is essentially a Mid-sized "Double-A" company, based in Cambridge.

I honestly doubt that FD will ever go trough the EA, Activision, Blizzard route.

Never say never, but yeah, it's very unlikely. I just needed to get it off my chest, mostly.
 
Using non-pay to win cosmetics as a way to fund the continued operations and development of Elite Dangerous is totally fine with me and I support Frontier with purchases of this nature every so often as I recognize the value of their work and I want this game to thrive for a long time. It's the same approach I take to supporting podcasts and youtubers that I really like on Patreon. I'll invest money for things that bring me a lot of joy.

Frontier do have their weaknesses like anyone else, but they deserve HUGE kudos for the model that they use to fund the game and I can't believe how much value the money I've spent has brought me as I've spent over 600 hours in this game.
 
Unlike Yamiks, this one is ignorant, sensationalistic muppet.

Truly?
Jin has a persona, no doubth, but hes one of the biggest mouths claiming for the end of predatory pratices in triple AAA games and for the rights of game developers who are often put into health-damaging crutch for the sake of money.

Some people are actually leaving studios with depression and anxiety due to these abusive workplaces, and Jim's a big critic of that.

Maybe try to take a longer look at something before making a conclusion.
 
I think that the micro transactions in this game are really well done. They are only there if you’re looking for them and have no real effect on gameplay

Yeah, i se no problem in the frontier market too.
You see what you like, you buy. No chance involved.
 
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