Possibly, but I have no reason to assume that any more than to assume that they would be able. Do you? After all, the code is written currently to prevent you entry to the system, I highly doubt there is code in the ATS to check again for the presence of a permit.
I can't see Shinrarta working very well with hundreds of Fleet Carriers wanting to jump thereHope not serious. One of the main reasons I want my fleet carrier is to park it in a system that is critical to our BGS efforts. Completely coincidentally it happens to be a permit locked system. I might also want to fly a large fleet around the engineers for specials, some of these are permit locked. Then there's the elephant in the room, mentioned in the OP, shirarta. I will frequently want to move large numbers of ships between there and elsewhere in the bubble.
So yeh, please let's carry ont he discussion, cos that solution is the least acceptable of all proposed so far.
Somebody chose the wrong system to back in the BGSHope not serious
So yeh, please let's carry ont he discussion, cos that solution is the least acceptable of all proposed so far.
Oh, ok, screw earth then, it can just go look after itself.Somebody chose the wrong system to back in the BGS
It'd be the same check (i.e. "does the CMDR have the required permit for this system") regardless of whether they are trying to target the system to jump to it or whether they are trying to gain docking permission. It'd simply need to be checked more often.
Space is big, as someone else said in another thread. I guess it depends what the destination protocol is going to be, cos I said a year ago that 50 carriers around Jameson is going to be stupid...there are plenty of non per,it systems that are just as busy, DEciat for example. This isn't really relevant to the permit thing.
Yeh, but I think people are starting to see this isn't a simple conundrum. Not allowing me to take MY personal carrier to permit systems I've unlocked, would be unacceptable. Something will have to be figured out. I could live with capital systems and shinrarta being off limits. But no others.
OK, but that's a code change and somewhat less elegant solution, plus, it doesn't achieve the goal of the permit lock, denying you access to the system.It'd be the same check (i.e. "does the CMDR have the required permit for this system") regardless of whether they are trying to target the system to jump to it or whether they are trying to gain docking permission. It'd simply need to be checked more often.
Which is an important reason why you shouldn't (couldn't ?) set a case where "anybody can board my ship without permission."
It'd be relatively simple for all CMDRs who lack the requisite permit to be forcibly "undocked" prior to the jump to a permit locked system. Online CMDRs could see the undocking animation; offline CMDRs would simply rejoin the game in space where the Carrier was before it jumped away.
Yes, it's a big issue for me that non elite cmdrs would get access to shinrarta (And to founder players I suppose it would be an issue too). It would also allow our BGS enemies to ship in their troops to our permit locked objectives...a BIG issue.
I'd expect that there are a fair few code changes with regard to Carriers - a few more shouldn't be much of an issue....
As stated already in the thread, the former is a griefing opportunity, the latter was suggested already by me.
It's only a griefing opportunity if the online CMDRs affected are asleep at the wheel.
I can't believe you're advocating allowing people into the systems they're not allowed in, allowing them to do god knows what (bounties, bgs effects, etc), but it's ok because they can't dock? It's not ok in my opinion.
