Don't we pay FDEV for a license to use and play the game anyway? We don't own any of it.
[BREAKING NEWS] Largest Heist In Galactic History Takes Place: EIC Robbed by The Code
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Don't we pay FDEV for a license to use and play the game anyway? We don't own any of it.
The Netherlands really, where some kids stole runescape gold by extortion and got convicted for it, by law, theft is theft, wether or not an undisputable value can be set for item X if you can prove that it was (and should be) in your possession and that it is now in possession of person Y without your permission the law enforcement WILL act. Which basicly means that IF the actions mentioned here are against the rules set by FDEV it is also a legal offense which will get them convicted (in the Netherlands).
Sounds about right. That would also render armchair lawyering null and void.
Great, anyone in the Netherlands calling the cops?
Yeah, wouldn't extortion be like if someone from the Code threatened to smash someone's house up if they didn't turn over their account details?
Based on the information in that post I don't think Dutch authorities cared about what was stolen in that case, but the means someone resorted to in order to obtain it.
I wouldn't be suprirsed if in Italy it is.
Here, you can be fined if you park your car leaving a window open (because some one can steal it).
Ah, and if you leave an address/phone book unattended and some one steals it you can be also arrested because addresses/phones can be considered personal data.
I have fond memories of Italian Police. Very stylish looking individuals.
Not much use when your being followed in the back streets of Brindisi or needing to report an attempted mugging in Firenze
Tourists eh?
they went trough 3 courts to determine that runescape money is a 'good' that can be 'stolen', although the subject matter is indeed a bit vague.
In some countries it is illegal to delete the digital content of a user without their permission. All it would take is a prosecutor trying to make a name and turn a molehill into a mountain.
It is not moving pixels, User 1 engineered the trust of User 2 to gain access to user 2's account, User 1 then used user 2's account and password to log on and delete/destroy/transfer digital content of user 2's account. When User1 used an actual account it crossed into a "Gray Area". To prove value you you have to find where one of the item has sold and for how much real world $$. again Gray Area.
I'm not a lawyer, I'm a retired IT guy. We had to be mindful of this crap every day.
It's a game, Keep it in the game. Be smart and be Safe.
Kripto
Perhaps, if this is all true that is, that they know that if they reveal the truth they're boned. All of em.
I hope it is true nyehehehe, good riddance
Hahahaha.......Them Dutch hey??...pffft...do you think it's due to the lack of mountains?
I'm not a lawyer either.
That being said I've watched "A Few Good Men" many times and think that qualifies me as an amateur lawyer.
I would argue that the items in question are not worth any RL money. You cannot buy them and they have no value.
As for the accounts of user 2, I understand that the passwords were open for use by whichever admin of EiC was on duty. All the "Dread Pirate wotsit" has done is given the goods away rather than request payment. As there is no value to the goods in the first place it kind of makes the notion of this as "theft" somewhat moot.
Furthermore, in EiC's response they suggested that the goods were in the cargo hold of the "Dread Pirate" already and were in fact his to give away. Which, if true makes this even less a crime (Not that it ever was).
As far as I see it, the only crime here is that EiC didn't attempt to pay up and then use that opportunity to organise some kind of double cross or whatnot. There could have been much Content created off the back of this.
You are obviously not from Holland. I think they have it correct, My dog took my slippers this morning WITHOUT MY PERMISSION, get me a Dutch lawyer.
Powderpanic
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I do enjoy your comical posts....
What can they possibly get banned for?
Honestly, this should be good...
You have the stand.
Also, someone added the term "hacking" into the pot in a recent post.... Totes Amazeballs!
Powderpanic
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And I put it to you sir that those very same slippers are in fact Clogs!
Misrepresentation of the highest order!
Objection Sustained!