We are trying to tell you that its not that simple to make a game... Planet zoo is using an upgraded version of the cobra engine, meaning that it couldn't have been just an expansion pack, as planet coaster's version of the Cobra engine wasn't built to support a weather system or volume metric water. It wasn't built to support the temperature or animal systems either. And no, before you ask, they can't just update the engine in planet coaster, as the groundwork was already made, and set in stone. Not to mention you keep talking about "human needs" when zoos aren't about putting humans first. Zoos are about taking care of the animals, and solely that. Pleasing guests is something which comes second, not first.
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We are trying to tell you that its not that simple to make a game... Planet zoo is using an upgraded version of the cobra engine, meaning that it couldn't have been just an expansion pack, as planet coaster's version of the Cobra engine wasn't built to support a weather system or volume metric water. It wasn't built to support the temperature or animal systems either. And no, before you ask, they can't just update the engine in planet coaster, as the groundwork was already made, and set in stone. Not to mention you keep talking about "human needs" when zoos aren't about putting humans first. Zoos are about taking care of the animals, and solely that. Pleasing guests is something which comes second, not first.
First, circuses are animal abuse and cruelty. Secondly it’s getting incredibly irritating, animal themed rides doesn’t make it a zoo
like ok, I’ll stick a ride in a hospital and call it a theme park. Lastly, I do believe you’re pretty young, as once again, RCT3 was never marketed as a zoo game. Zoo tycoon was. I feel like I’m arguing with a 12 year old, and to be honest I probably am. You don’t understand at all how there’s an overload in games and it would definitely crash, bug fixes can’t repair an overloaded system. It would have never been possible.
Zoos are not for human entertainment, that’s not what they are for. I feel like a broken record because for some reason you don’t get it.
Seriously stop with the Busch gardens thing, that’s your opinion, as someone who’s worked and volunteered in zoos, it’s clear you have zero idea what you’re talking about
no yall trying to tell me someting from their pr money grab baloney. it is easy when pc is the base game and pz should have been it's expansion pack not a stand alone. and yes they cold have upgrade the engine as it's not set in stone.and from the get go they could have just added the sun burn and rain code from rct3 to pc and worked from there they even reclyed the night and day code from rct3 to pc it still holds dark or instant flashes to day. they could have added all of that to pc as pz being an expansion pack. no human needs come first as they pay the bills to care for the animals no guests = no money and no money means no care for the animals.
Heres the thing.. planet coaster isn't roller coaster tycoon 3 okay? It kind of seems as if you don't really know how game development works. I barely know how, but from what I do know, this isn't possible.. Not to mention, they can't just use code from rct3, as frontier themselves, while they did have a part in developing the game, have no rights to use the codes or engine. Not to mention said engine is pretty much over 10 years old at this point. Also, one more thing, you can't update a games engine unless your making a new game or a sequel, as its the foundation that the game is built on, and you can't just go back to a completed game and tweak the engine without restarting the development of said game.
nope circuses was a home for them and it's a better useful life and safety from being killed by a poacher or trophy hunter. well finlly w can agree on something this is irritating. animals make a zoo and the rides can be themed to the animals to bring in the money to care for the animals. tbh that's not a bad idea if hosptils had rides or waterparks attached they fleace engough money off of you from getting sick might as well entertain you and make you feel better when your ill. me recalling animals in a cuircus should have placed an date on me. but yes rct3 was marrketed as a zoo game when wild came out and soked for water parks and base rct3 for dry parks. well i feel like i'm arguing with a 5 year old. updates and patches conther act any overload bugs . and yes it would have been possible. zoos are for human entertainment and a home for animals. i feel like i'm the boken record here because it seems you don't get it. this is a tycoon game after all and the goal is to get rich by attracting guests and entertain them. no i will not stop the busch gardens thing as it is a zoo. well good for you i own my own farm and care for my animals and enter my animals in the fair every year.First, circuses are animal abuse and cruelty. Secondly it’s getting incredibly irritating, animal themed rides doesn’t make it a zoo
I feel like I’m arguing with a 12 year old, and to be honest I probably am. You don’t understand at all how there’s an overload in games and it would definitely crash, bug fixes can’t repair an overloaded system. It would have never been possible.
Zoos are not for human entertainment, that’s not what they are for. I feel like a broken record because for some reason you don’t get it.
Seriously stop with the Busch gardens thing, that’s your opinion, as someone who’s worked and volunteered in zoos, it’s clear you have zero idea what you’re talking about
pc is and updated rct3 and i was expecting the same style expansion packs. i have taken codeing classes before but i deceidce i was just better off playing games and raising my farm animals. it is absolutely possible they pulled the game from steam when atari did not pay them. the devlopers own the game and code the puplisher just puts the game up for sale. just look at the night and day cycle from both games it's 100% recycled code. the engine for rct3 is the cobra engine. yes you can update a games engine i wish they had done so for rct3 insted of a multi year wait. yes you can you can go back and add new stuff to an old game.
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This thread started as a wish for rides in Planet Zoo. Bo has replied in this thread with a valuable answer to a question about rides in Planet Zoo. It would be unhelpful to move this thread out of the Planet Zoo section to the off-topic forum.
This thread can stay in it’s place.
Fair enough. I'll just avoid this thread, as for me this topic is closed.
Remember when someone (I'm not mentioning the name) said that the majority of this Forum wants Rides and that someone couldn't speak for people he's been chatting with for years?.... Yeah
I'm sticking with my side of this argument.
There's no point in even extending this argument because Bo already stated that the Rides you are requesting will not (And probably NEVER) be in PlanZoo.
You can have the 2 transport rides and pretend they are Rollercoasters (Really really really slow ones)
Like Luuknoord, this thread is closed for me.
I'm sticking with my side of this argument.
There's no point in even extending this argument because Bo already stated that the Rides you are requesting will not (And probably NEVER) be in PlanZoo.
You can have the 2 transport rides and pretend they are Rollercoasters
(Really really really slow ones)Like Luuknoord, this thread is closed for me.
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I wish (this is the wishlist sub-forum, after all), there would be a way to “block” whole threads!
Not users; I have nothing against coasterlover.
Just threads that turn and turn and turn around topics I am not interested in (any more), but yet create this exciting “new comments in here!” font-fattening at the higher forum level entry.
And then I curiously enter the forum section ... and its just another comment in that circle thread of boredom ...
I'm probably done with this argument, since at this point its pointless. Its like I'm talking to a brick wall.
In my view, zoos serve educational, conservation and recreational purposes. It's important for them to make people aware about the animals, restore population of those animals and create a enjoyable destination for everyone. However, the main purpose of a zoo is the first two points, NOT the last. A theme park would cater of the entertainment side WAY BETTER than a true zoo we all know and love.
Like many others here, I think the coaster thing diverts a long shot from what PZ is trying to achieve.
Personally, I'm cool with mini-amusement sections, as it's common in most of the zoos in my country most of them are harmless, simple and bring joy to the whole family.
Like many others here, I think the coaster thing diverts a long shot from what PZ is trying to achieve.
Personally, I'm cool with mini-amusement sections, as it's common in most of the zoos in my country most of them are harmless, simple and bring joy to the whole family.
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I'm fine with the train or safari rides, or even playgrounds, but roller coasters and the such probably don't belong.
I'll be overjoyed to at'least have a Carousel, maybe a Observation Tower to look down at the zoo, and definitely would like to see more transport rides, but anything else like coasters or major thrill rides would take away the focus of running a zoo and taking care of the animals.
My head hurts from trying to provide rational information that seadogpirate can understand, You can’t win with kids, they ‘know everything’ 
On another note, keep telling yourself circuses don’t abuse animals honestly, under cover videos from circuses will be your rude wake up call.
With that being said, I’m done here. Coasters will not be coming to Planzoo, and thank god for that.
On another note, keep telling yourself circuses don’t abuse animals
honestly, under cover videos from circuses will be your rude wake up call. With that being said, I’m done here. Coasters will not be coming to Planzoo, and thank god for that.
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I think the latter is a most likely.
just my 2 cents...
Websters official definition of a zoo...
: a facility with usually indoor and outdoor settings where living, typically wild animals are kept especially for public exhibition
So, while many zoos are built and managed specifically for education, conservation, etc....when it comes down to it...basically if animals are on exhibition (no matter what the reason) its considered a zoo. Keep in mind here, I'm not saying if this game should have rides or not...but the discussion on if Disney's Animal Kingdom, or Busch Gardens, etc. are zoos or not...
Sounds like these would qualify as a zoo per Websters age old respected information and definition of a zoo. While these parks and many people may call theses a theme park, and have thrill rides...they do have animals on exhibition as well...so they could/should also be classified as a zoo as well as a theme park (or a zoo within a theme park)...IMO, and in Webster's definition.
Just because these parks have thrill rides, they still do have animals on exhibition, have keepers that care for, treat, breed, trade...just like a zoo without rides. These parks also do typically have a strong education and conservation message that is continually displayed to and shared with the public.
Websters official definition of a zoo...
: a facility with usually indoor and outdoor settings where living, typically wild animals are kept especially for public exhibition
So, while many zoos are built and managed specifically for education, conservation, etc....when it comes down to it...basically if animals are on exhibition (no matter what the reason) its considered a zoo. Keep in mind here, I'm not saying if this game should have rides or not...but the discussion on if Disney's Animal Kingdom, or Busch Gardens, etc. are zoos or not...
Sounds like these would qualify as a zoo per Websters age old respected information and definition of a zoo. While these parks and many people may call theses a theme park, and have thrill rides...they do have animals on exhibition as well...so they could/should also be classified as a zoo as well as a theme park (or a zoo within a theme park)...IMO, and in Webster's definition.
Just because these parks have thrill rides, they still do have animals on exhibition, have keepers that care for, treat, breed, trade...just like a zoo without rides. These parks also do typically have a strong education and conservation message that is continually displayed to and shared with the public.
The zoo in my area has a lovely carousel. I'd love if Planet Zoo included one of those.