A Notice on Rockforth Fertiliser TWICE ?
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^^ This.
Yeh, wrapped my keyboard in clingfilm.
Sometimes people are wrong on the Internet. This was not one of those times.
The problem was that not even this credit removal action could they carry out without bugs.
- from some ppl only the profit they made during the fertiliser business was removed (this was what fdev intended to do I guess)
- from other ppl they removed way more than that (because they forgot to take NPC crew members' profit cut into account)
- and sometimes they removed random amounts of credits from ppl who were never involved in the unintended fertiliser business.
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Cry me a river, tbh. Lesson here is: don't abuse exploits in the game. I'd prefer to see zero-balanced and returned to just a default sidewinder, but hey, I prefer actual deterrents, not just slaps on the wrist.
What about all the credits other players couldn't engage this stuff legitimately, because when they arrived to pick up fertilizer, there was no profit margin left on the commodity due to the exploiters?
You apparently didn't read the post you were replying to.
What lesson needs to be taught to ppl who never took part in the fertiliser business in your opinion?
Yeah, I'll admit I missed that bit. Other two points though are irrelevant, as far as I'm concerned.
Although tangentially, it's rare (in my experience) that I've ever heard of anyone who had stuff docked for cheating who didn't actually do it. Many deny it, and they've usually been shown to be lying, for some reason. In this case, I wouldn't be surprised if people would do that just coz trash-talking FD is a soft hit.
Reading that hurt my brain...........
I think the hilarious one is the second option - all those hours mashing the exploit .. in order to give the credits to an NPC crew member
I think the hilarious one is the second option - all those hours mashing the exploit .. in order to give the credits to an NPC crew member
Yeah, why should the NPC crew suffer, just because their employer is a cheat?
Well, the issue is that for all we know fdev wanted to remove ill-gained profits from players (well they never did that after countless other credit exploits, and buying and then selling goods for a profit pretty much fits the very definition of "trade", but that's not the point).
The problem is that they (accidentally, as far as I can tell) did not punish ppl for using the exploit. They punished only those exploiters who happened to have an NPC pilot (which is an utterly irrelevant condition), along with some random ppl who sold the fertilisers at different stations or even had nothing to do with them.
But other exploiters weren't punished, let alone sidewindered, their credit balance was only resetted as if the exploit had never happened.
So the only lesson to learn was "you might get randomly punished even if you don't use an exploit, but as long as you don't have an NPC pilot you can do any exploit you wish, you will either be allowed to keep your profits (as in previous credit exploits) or only lose the exploited profit in the worst case scenario (as in the fertiliser business)".
I tend not to believe what people punished for cheating say.
What you believe or not is totally irrelevant.
FDEV priorities at the moment:
-Punishment
-Punishment x2 (becuase of the Community Open Letter)
-Bug fix (critical ones only)
-Interstellar Initiative
-Release Universal Limpet Controller (changed my mind becuase of the Community Open Letter)
-Release New SRV's (changed my mind becuase of the Community Open Letter)
-Release new infomation about Fleet Carriers (changed my mind becuase of the Community Open Letter)
-Punishment
-Punishment x2 (becuase of the Community Open Letter)
-Bug fix (critical ones only)
-Interstellar Initiative