[Video] Open letter from community to Elite Dangerous

As I've explained to people on this forum before, who refuse to believe the truth (not saying that's you Stigbob, I'm just quoting you because you cite the FAQ) The FAQ are not kickstarter promises, only the pledge tiers are. Not what is said in any pitch video, advert, dev diary or game trailer. Only the pledge tiers.

The only word with any real importance in the quote I gave was 'potential'. Everything post release is firmly in maybe territory.
 
Well it's interesting you decide to personally attack people because of their chosen playstyle, says more about you then them... anyway back to my point - whether you like it or not is irrelevant. I'm trying to demonstrate why the idea of 'You don't have to grind in Elite to have fun' is a load of nonsense. It only applies if the things you enjoy are not gated by grind.

Also: https://inara.cz/cmdr/14271/ I'd be interested to know how you got all those ships, especially the Vette and Cutter without grinding?
I've been playing for around 9 months now. Still not reached a high enough rank to get a Corvette, but I'm slowly getting there. Just enjoying the ride as it were. Not sure why anyone's in a rush to get anywhere in this game, there's so much to do and a ton of stuff to learn, why rush? It's a game, not a job! 😌
 
I've been playing for around 9 months now. Still not reached a high enough rank to get a Corvette, but I'm slowly getting there. Just enjoying the ride as it were. Not sure why anyone's in a rush to get anywhere in this game, there's so much to do and a ton of stuff to learn, why rush? It's a game, not a job! 😌
Because they want to play the parts the find fun with the ships they want to fly? I dont really get the job analogy. Its a sandbox with most of the toys locked. Generally speaking most of the rushing is to unlock more toys. If you want to do it all in a week or just take your time over the course of years either is fine, but how you dont understand why people would want to unlock things quickly is beyond me.
 
Because they want to play the parts the find fun with the ships they want to fly? I dont really get the job analogy. Its a sandbox with most of the toys locked. Generally speaking most of the rushing is to unlock more toys. If you want to do it all in a week or just take your time over the course of years either is fine, but how you dont understand why people would want to unlock things quickly is beyond me.

It's almost as if people had goals.
 
Sure, there is no grind as long as you have no focused goals, or really any skill based goals at all. If all a player cares about is randomly wobbling through the private/solo pve aspect of the game then it's a moot point. The second you actually develop a goal, especially one that involves skill, your perspective on grind changes considerably.

Your entire argument on this point is nothing more than mocking the players who have different goals then you (or any goals, for that matter), and isn't particularly informed since the closest you ever get to even being in the vicinity of their point is poking at them and making fun on this forum.
I was randomly wobbling thru the solo aspect of the game, now I'm randomly wobbling thru the open aspect of the game. I will PvP one day, but I'm not interested in grinding, so while PvP is a long term goal, there's lotsa other stuff to do on the way. The way you guys talk about goals make it sound like a bloody job! A more relaxed approach is appropriate when playing a game methinks... 🙂
 
I was randomly wobbling thru the solo aspect of the game, now I'm randomly wobbling thru the open aspect of the game. I will PvP one day, but I'm not interested in grinding, so while PvP is a long term goal, there's lotsa other stuff to do on the way. The way you guys talk about goals make it sound like a bloody job! A more relaxed approach is appropriate when playing a game methinks... 🙂

I would like to point out the most valid, and hopeful view you exressed above, had to be: "methinks".
 
On a personal level I can respect that; blaze your own path. The problem I have is not with how you play the game, but rather in how you use your own lack of focus as a yardstick with which to mock other players who do in fact have to grind their rears off to get where they're going, whether you have the experience to recognize it or not.
The thing is, they don't have to grind their rears off, they choose to do it. Seeing as most of us have to grind their rears off IRL, why in all that is holy would anyone choose to do that in their precious free time?
 
I was randomly wobbling thru the solo aspect of the game, now I'm randomly wobbling thru the open aspect of the game. I will PvP one day, but I'm not interested in grinding, so while PvP is a long term goal, there's lotsa other stuff to do on the way. The way you guys talk about goals make it sound like a bloody job! A more relaxed approach is appropriate when playing a game methinks... 🙂
I'm glad you're having fun, but you in no way refuted my point; if you have goals, you need to grind to reach them, and if you have no goals....you don't. You don't, and that's great, but it just means that you have no idea what those of us who do are talking about.
 
I'm glad you're having fun, but you in no way refuted my point; if you have goals, you need to grind to reach them, and if you have no goals....you don't. You don't, and that's great, but it just means that you have no idea what those of us who do are talking about.
Not 100% accurate in my opinion. Yes you can have goals but you don't necessarily need to grind to achieve them. If you are prepared to wait, nearly everything in this game can be achieved through normal play. The problem arises when someone sets their goal (which is not only fine but admirable) but makes the decision that they want to achieve the goal if not now then in the quickest time possible. So they divert all their gaming time to achieving that goal, to the detriment of everything else - then complain that they are grinding for one specific thing ...
 
Today, I have been mining, after some days of building ships. Needed the materials.

It seems that outfitting and engineering gain me more ARX than any other activities. I'm close to 400 ARX after three weeks. I have not changed my playstyle for ARX. Hence my accumulation of ARX will be slow. I'm not interested in buying much, so no ARX packs for me.

I now have more than enough ships. The credit chase is about the only thing left, since exploration is now strip mining.

Frontier needs to generate content for me, not bugs.
 
I'm glad you're having fun, but you in no way refuted my point; if you have goals, you need to grind to reach them, and if you have no goals....you don't. You don't, and that's great, but it just means that you have no idea what those of us who do are talking about.
I disagree, I have several goals in the game none of which will involve grinding as I have set timescales which mean I won't have to grind for example I want eventually to own a Federal Corvette however while it would be nice to get it this year anytime in the next 3 years will be fine.

It isn't really the goals that lead to grinding it is setting short timescales to achieve them.

Edit: Ninja'd by @M00ka
 
Not 100% accurate in my opinion. Yes you can have goals but you don't necessarily need to grind to achieve them. If you are prepared to wait, nearly everything in this game can be achieved through normal play. The problem arises when someone sets their goal (which is not only fine but admirable) but makes the decision that they want to achieve the goal if not now then in the quickest time possible. So they divert all their gaming time to achieving that goal, to the detriment of everything else - then complain that they are grinding for one specific thing ...

Define "normal play".
 
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