This is what I got for 2.5 hours of mining

[Mohrgan]

It’s not a negative view, it’s a realistic view of the free arx system. It’s not a bad thing to do at all. But to think that it’s anything other than a marketing ploy is to be a little naive.

I accept that as your opinion.

 

[Enderby]

I accept that as your opinion.

I’m honoured.

 

[Ian Skippy]

I agree, it is like a discount, but if i don't want a Cutter ship kit, i'm going to going to buy a Cutter ship kit even if the free ARX discounts it for me by 10%. Now, if the free ARX get it down to 90% discount, i might be tempted (if i had a Cutter of course).

And now take into account that there people on this planet who would be classified as 'not-you', who may put the threshold elsewhere and you understand how it works. Of the people who buy depending on price, some will buy it even if the discount is one measly Arx. Someone will only buy it if it is reduced to cost only one Arx. And the rest, again is distributed between the extremes. So where you might need a 90% discount, non-you people might only need 80, 50, 20 or 10%.

 

[Agony_Aunt]

And now take into account that there people on this planet who would be classified as 'not-you', who may put the threshold elsewhere and you understand how it works. Of the people who buy depending on price, some will buy it even if the discount is one measly Arx. Someone will only buy it if it is reduced to cost only one Arx. And the rest, again is distributed between the extremes. So where you might need a 90% discount, non-you people might only need 80, 50, 20 or 10%.

I would suggest that most people have a reasonable level of self-control in such matters and would not buy stuff they don't want. I'm talking 99.9% of the population. Not to be confused with stuff they don't need of course, because our house is full of bric-a-brac that we don't need, but my wife wanted.

 

[Ian Skippy]

I would suggest that most people have a reasonable level of self-control in such matters and would not buy stuff they don't want. I'm talking 99.9% of the population. Not to be confused with stuff they don't need of course, because our house is full of bric-a-brac that we don't need, but my wife wanted.

Okay, I'm sure every marketing team in the world is wrong about this and your black&white perspective on what people 'need' and 'need' is a very intelligent way to look at it. Oh well, guess FD's marketing team is in for a big surprise!

 

[Alyssa]

Why not? Its a low risk job.

What is the high risk to sell about 100 million creds worth of exploration data for 300 arx?

 

[Vandaahl]

What is the high risk to sell about 100 million creds worth of exploration data

None?

 

[Factabulous]

What is the high risk to sell about 100 million creds worth of exploration data for 300 arx?

Ermm, 40M gets you 400 ARX, so if you're seling 100M / week you are doing it wrong - and the risk is you are wasting a possible 600 ARX

 

[Masta Squidge]

Imagine playing a game for no reason than to get free things in game.

 

[[PS4] Lorenzo Waringos]

I know I’m repeating myself but if you’re that susceptible to the ARX style of marketing and at real risk of over spending, then don’t play this game or many of the other video games. Don’t have use email because you will get unsolicited offers in your inbox. Stay well clear of the internet altogether. Be careful what post you open in the morning, some will be unsolicited offers. Do not use public transport, it is smothered in offers. Do not watch TV. Do not listen to the radio. Do not read papers. Avoid the high street and their enticing shop fronts and sales. Basically, stay in bed wearing a blind fold and ear defenders.

 

[Factabulous]

Imagine playing a game for no reason than to get free things in game.

Errr, you mean like people grinding CR for FC, or trying to get corvettes, or elite decals? Just because ARX can be P2W no reason not to collect 'em

 

[Factabulous]

Basically, stay in bed wearing a blind fold and ear defenders.

Are there any brands you can recommend? Or should I check on the Instagrams?

Edit: I checked the instagrams!

 

[[PS4] Lorenzo Waringos]

Are there any brands you can recommend? Or should I check on the Instagrams?

I hear Leo is an expert in this ‘specialist’ bedroom garment shopping.

 

[Barking_Mad]

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After 2.5 hours of mining and selling the minerals. Frontier, this is not "free ARX". This is an insult.

I don't feel rewarded for playing. I feel mocked.

I understand the need for funds for continuous development, as I have spent a considerable amount of money on the game in the past 4+ years. But this system is not an incentive to play. It's essentially mocking players when they exit their session. If you really think 2-3 hours of daily gameplay is worth this much then you simply don't understand how these systems should work. 400 ARX per week is low enough as it is, clearly not breaking your bank. At least let us reach it with normal, active gameplay. Make it an incentive, an encouragement to play. Or remove this insulting system completely.

When I give a gift to someone, I want it to be meaningful, regardless of financial value. But I wouldn't give a box of toothpicks as a gift. The current system feels exactly like that.

Ignore Arx. Play the game have fun, or don't because it's not fun. If you're obsessing over Arx and feel cheated or ripped off, you're playing for all the wrong reasons and deserve the pain you're inflicting on yourself.

Edit: that said Arx or anything similar is cheap, period. Sad it's here, especially in this game, but best ignored.

 

[Alyssa]

None?

Last weekend I earned weekly cap in 2 days. I did a cca 50KLy trip, mostly with neutron plotter. My discovery was about 90 jumps in undiscovered systems, earned my destination, maded few screenshots then headed back to home. On all way back with neutron plotter. It was few sessions per day for about 10-12 arx per sessions. So I did'nt had 100 arx total before I sold my data, and at the end I had weekly cap. I wasn't in danger on my trip, I'm a bit seasoned traveler, so where is the danger?

 

[Alyssa]

Ermm, 40M gets you 400 ARX, so if you're seling 100M / week you are doing it wrong - and the risk is you are wasting a possible 600 ARX

Sure, I was silly.

 

[dreampage]

Ignore Arx. Play the game have fun, or don't because it's not fun. If you're obsessing over Arx and feel cheated or ripped off, you're playing for all the wrong reasons and deserve the pain you're inflicting on yourself.

Edit: that said Arx or anything any on game system like it is cheap, period. Sad it's here, especially on this game, but best ignored.

I completely agree. I'm not planning to buy anything out of free ARX because it's obviously not designed for that. I have other goals in-game anyway. I wish, however, the system was more just. Differentiating between gameplay styles is contradictory to what Frontier has advertised beforehand. The system is both too complicated, causing bugs and unpredictable.

 

[Agony_Aunt]

Okay, I'm sure every marketing team in the world is wrong about this and your black&white perspective on what people 'need' and 'need' is a very intelligent way to look at it. Oh well, guess FD's marketing team is in for a big surprise!

Yes, of course. You're absoloutely right and in no way are we misunderstanding each other.

I understand the marketing behind it, we deal with on a daily basis. But i also think you need to give people more credit than you are doing.

 

[Enderby]

But, you do understand that there would be no free arx unless FD thought it would bring in cash?

 

[Armyofducks]

Remember those far gone days when there was no free ARX? And to get paint jobs and bobble heads and ship kits you had to throw real money down?

Pepperidge farm remembers...