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Sometimes its not what you ask its how you ask it.
The opinion of the contributor that always thinks it's all bad is worthless, because there is no helpful information on which to try to improve.
Similarly the opinion of the contributor who is happy with everything is a pushover, and their opinion is also worthless.
I am trying to help you to see this Stigbob, and although you are reluctant to open your eyes having argued yourself into a corner others reading hopefully will.
You can't expect people to be infinitely patient.
I don't, that's why I agree that dev's should shut down communications as soon as their own patience runs out.
Nobody thinks everything is perfect.
Some people just have unrealistic expectations, lack pre-purchase research and let their imaginations run away with them. The dev's can't patch that.
I don't, that's why I agree that dev's should shut down communications as soon as their own patience runs out.
I'd say FD would know if they have figures implying that.Good, I hope you also realize that FD drained the patience of players in the first place.
Good, I hope you also realize that FD drained the patience of players in the first place.
Stigbob, you have not taken money in exchange for goods or services.
Your contributions are, much like the Beyond Series of Updates, free whether people want them or notHolding an opinion that everything is fine despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary is fine, I regularly hold a minority stance simply because I am saying things because others have not said them.
But the frothy mess of threads like these, where a small number of 'defenders' wind people up to the point where the Community Team feel unable to step in because everyone is so angry is a destructive pattern and I think it would benefit both Frontier and the wider community if you were to just give it a rest![]()
Come off it, people have been melting down since pre-release. I have patience, which is why my only reaction to next years DLC is optimism.
What I said and what you said aren't mutually exclusive, try harder.
I'm one of many partners he has![]()
They're waiting for the second coming of Yamiks - it has been fortold![]()
You wish.
You, Sir, have far too much time on your hands.Right. Squid stews in the oven I have some time to kill. Sorry everyone postzilla incoming.
So your annoyed about the game in an enduring way, rather than just upset about this patch. OK, you should think about moving on its just a video game and its obviously not something you enjoy which is the whole point of video games.
No not deju vu, since I've never heard any of that before.
I'm an end user, I just looked into the product they were selling, checked it fitted my preferences, read up on the plan for the future, tried the demo liked it all and got the game.
They haven't deviated from what they were selling. Things have taken longer than we thought but that's down to the pricing and the DLC release method having a rethink in response to the playerbases reaction to Horizons.
I got a free season out of that which I was expecting to pay for so like ARX its a bonus for me.
We are not in a mess, you are in a mess. Player and subreddit visitor numbers are steady there is no sign of doom quite the opposite more content is incoming and there's more DLC to follow it. Good times.
Every "legacy promise" ever made was made under the very clear proviso that its a work in progress, it depends on technical feasibility and financial success to move forward. Nothing beyond the base release was ever a certainty, the only way you can have bought in without knowing that is deliberate ignorance.
You having a PP meltdown now is based on your internal theorycrafted roadmap, it doesn't exist outside of your head. The world cannot be reasonably expected to accommodate something you dreamt up.
Sandro stopped talking to us when furious nerds started jumping on every single post he ever made throwing fits at him. I only got to read the non-moderated ones as well. I dread to think what they were like before.
You seem over focussed on the guy, he's just one part of the dev team. I think the only reason he drew flak was because he was actually willing to talk to us until the less socially skilled players stopped him doing that.
I think you'd be happier buying completed games, you seem unsuited to kickstarters or works in progress. I'm OK with them because I'm fine with the plan inevitably changing.
Your points are all opinions, and seem to be consistently demonstrably wrong.
Work in progress, technical feasibility may have blocked certain things. We all knew this.
I seem more knowledgeable about it than you, your entire point is that you failed to understand kickstarters and that plans might change.
That's not fair, its a great petition, Its launched a fair few forum memes already.
On a serious note, I don't like gamers trying to force dev companies to do things their way right now of else. I like FDEV's stuff I don't want it ruined by an internet committee of self appointed "experts" with a blind spot for detail.
Dev bashing, shove that toxic paragraph.
Dev bashing, same reply as above.
Read this its why FDEV don't and shouldn't care what you think, in the words of the articles author they don't make games for the toxic 0.1% :
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The topic every game dev is talking about behind closed doors : The cost of doing business
Content warning : I’ve embedded some tweets to various developers that show the sorts of comments that they receive every day. There’s some…medium.com
Am I the only one that doesnt think fdev are a bunch of cowards and just think they dont see the need to jump in and moderate ever topic on this forum as if we were a bunch of children? Cause I see this "They are afraid to talk" thing a lot and frankly I dont see it.-where the Community Team feel unable to step in because everyone is so angry is a destructive pattern...
I do, that'd be pretty steamy.You wish.
Thats the second time I see a reference to a small group of people doing all the 'defending' here. This afternoon I saw a number between the 20 or 30. I mean, looking at my ignore list, a number of 20 or 30 is quite easy to maintain. Couple of clicks and everyone can enjoy the silence. Why is it so important that those last 20 or 30 need to be convinced their reality is different from the rest?where a small number of 'defenders' wind people up