[Video] Open letter from community to Elite Dangerous

I am afraid this goes beyond simple awareness raising. And that is part of the reason many patrons do not like this petition.

As you can see in the reddit thread some of the letter contributors may still be planning actions based on

Please have your guess at what they may be planning in case said timelines are not met by FDEV.

At best it shows some of the letter contributors, like ObsidianAnt for example, signed something without full knowledge of what may be actually going on. At worst it means those contributors knew full well what could happen and just acquiesced.

I suspect next time FDEV invite some influenza's to their secret volcano lair the guestlist will be different. Calling it now, it'll cause tantrums.
 
Do you think they would be more able to do so than a much, much larger company with many more resources? Because that was the context of my comment.

When I look at how MS is promoting their new Flight Simulator then no I don't think so.
On the other hand, does it have to be that extensive?

There are enough small devs out there that don't have pr budgets like MS but still release trailers and teasers, who get their potential customers excited, LGM comes to mind but there are more.
 
I am afraid this goes beyond simple awareness raising. And that is part of the reason many patrons do not like this petition.

As you can see in the reddit thread some of the letter contributors may still be planning actions based on

Please have your guess at what they may be planning in case said timelines are not met by FDEV.

At best it shows some of the letter contributors, like ObsidianAnt for example, signed something without full knowledge of what may be actually going on. At worst it means those contributors knew full well what could happen and just acquiesced.

I don't expect anything else to happen. Pretty sure their has been a more private conversation going on between Frontier and the "petitioners". Zac saw that the public reply was like entering the lion's den and has since withdrawn from the spotlight.

Individuals may plan actions.. But of what? Just making another video showcasing disappointment and frustration?

Don't belittle them. Shutting down all* community created services is a very real threat and that's why Frontier took it very seriously and wasn't amused at all when it happened the first time.

*) Not all, don't know who exactly would be part of this or go along with it.
 
I am afraid this goes beyond simple awareness raising. And that is part of the reason many patrons do not like this petition.

As you can see in the reddit thread some of the letter contributors may still be planning actions based on

Please have your guess at what they may be planning in case said timelines are not met by FDEV.

At best it shows some of the letter contributors, like ObsidianAnt for example, signed something without full knowledge of what may be actually going on. At worst it means those contributors knew full well what could happen and just acquiesced.

I don't know, but whatever it is, it certainly sounds childish. Though I can understand if contributors like OA start to divert from Elite as basically nothing is going on.
As much as I wish I could look forward to the future of Elite, if FDev wants (deliberately or by ignorance) to drive this franchise to ground - so be it.
 
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There are enough small devs out there that don't have pr budgets like MS but still release trailers and teasers, who get their potential customers excited, LGM comes to mind but there are more.

FDev posted a short video about FCs and the forums exploded for weeks afterward.
 
Some people knew nothing about FCs but went straight into "What if they X? I don't want X! I can't believe Frontier is forcing X on us! X is a stupid idea that ruins Fleet Carriers!"

A lot of theoretical boogeyman stuff.

Because Frontier communicated too much or too little?

I guess that's pretty much the glass half full/half empty question.
 
Frontier's cinematic "reveal" trailers are 99% Hollywood fiction, 1% actual gameplay. If Elite Dangerous was the game as portrayed in those cinematic trailers, everybody would be talking about it.

Maybe Braben missed his calling - he should have been a movie director instead of a software developer. His "movies" are pretty amazing, TBH!

But back on topic, I want to see actual gameplay footage, not some fantasized version of the game. According to the past trailers, we already have space legs and talking NPC crews. These trailers are very misleading..

This is the part I prefer...
  • Micro jump between the conflict zone and the station without bothering with supercruise
  • Fights where non-engineered ships can stand a fight for more than few seconds
  • Combats close to the station without being annihilated by the station defence system
  • Canister collection at incredible high maneuvering speed (do it in-game faster than 30 m/s and the canister will be destroyed)
  • Cobra spinning and turning back to the opponent for an easy and insta-kill

Source: https://youtu.be/dwvjElmFCfE?t=46s
 
This is the part I prefer...
  • Micro jump between the conflict zone and the station without bothering with supercruise
  • Fights where non-engineered ships can stand a fight for more than few seconds
  • Combats close to the station without being annihilated by the station defence system
  • Canister collection at incredible high maneuvering speed (do it in-game faster than 30 m/s and the canister will be destroyed)
  • Cobra spinning and turning back to the opponent for an easy and insta-kill
Source: https://youtu.be/dwvjElmFCfE?t=46s

Adverts are like Santa Claus beyond a certain age you are expected to know its not real.
 
Adverts are like Santa Claus beyond a certain age you are expected to know its not real.
Years ago game adverts were never like the real thing, I remember with my spectrum 48k and yet the games (in the latter years) almost always had Arcade or Atari ST or Amiga screenshots on the box.
however at some point in the more modern era game adverts did become more honest in general....... i remember gears of war and lost planet i think it were created quite the ruckus when they put "Actual in game footage" on the advert and many people did not believe it.

Sure some game adds still have nonsense in there, but most adverts tend to be quite honest now. That ED launch advert I felt was a throwback to more abstracted times.

That said in FDs defence, most of their trailers since then have used ingame assets i think and whilst they may be portrayed in a "best possible light" kind of way, they are not fake.

The problem is these days it is often harder to tell the truth from the fake. I suspect a lot of us PC gamers on here have machines which would be technically capable of pulling off that ED launch trailer - or very close to it - real time and in engine.
 
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Because Frontier communicated too much or too little?

I guess that's pretty much the glass half full/half empty question.
Because Frontier communicated, full stop. It's always wild speculation.

Even with ARX, where we knew everything about them, people were still concocting scenarios.
 
Years ago game adverts were never like the real thing, I remember with my spectrum 48k and yet the games (in the latter years) almost always had Arcade or Atari ST or Amiga screenshots on the box.
however at some point in the more modern era game adverts did become more honest in general....... i remember gears of war and lost planet i think it were created quite the ruckus when they put "Actual in game footage" on the advert and many people did not believe it.

Sure some game adds still have nonsense in there, but most adverts tend to be quite honest now. That ED launch advert I felt was a throwback to more abstracted times.

That said in FDs defence, most of their trailers since then have used ingame assets i think and whilst they may be portrayed in a "best possible light" kind of way, they are not fake.

The problem is these days it is often harder to tell the truth from the fake. I suspect a lot of us PC gamers on here have machines which would be technically capable of pulling off that ED launch trailer - or very close to it - real time and in engine.

Things like the hellgate London ads were bad in that they bore no resemblance to the game, but the ED trailer no more unrealistic than any game cutscene I thought. The video where the guy compares stick movements in it and the game just came across as being a bit sad.

I liked the ad, got chatting with some other sci-fi fans in the cinema as a result before a star wars film (? IIRC). Told them how to try the demo to see if they liked it.

They had to ban the red bull ads because it doesn't actually make you fly. Which is a huge condemnation of our society, but says nothing about advertising really.

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