Extinct animal DLC

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...You guys realize that woolly mammoths are Holocene animals right? Even 10,000 years is extremely recent, all of today's animals lived in that long ago too.
I do, and while I wouldn't be overly upset if the devs decided to add wolly mammoths and or mastodons I think adding animals that went extinct because of humans would be a nice feature for the game as it does work to promote things like eco tourism, climate change and poaching.
 
I think ones with a slight chance for DLC should be qualified with these issues.
1) ones had gone extinct in recent years.
2) ones had been kept in zoos.
3) ones can be restored technically.
So I suggest quogga here.
 
Quagga, I presume?

I'm thinking of animals like the fan-favorite dodo, the ancestor of cattle (Aurochs), the Tarpan, the Elephant Bird, the status-crisis Tasmanian Tiger (sightings are reported), etc.
 
This game is quite different from JWE, and while the developers are unlikely to add any form of dinosaur for their own reasons, I still would love an extinct animal dlc. Doesn't matter when they went extinct. All animals, recently extinct or not, have the potential to be educational and add to the game for somebody. Plus, if it is a dlc, anybody who doesn't want extinct animals won't have to have them in their game. I'd prefer it as a later dlc, though, to give all of the modern day animals the attention they deserve, first.
 
I think ones with a slight chance for DLC should be qualified with these issues.
1) ones had gone extinct in recent years.
2) ones had been kept in zoos.
3) ones can be restored technically.
So I suggest quogga here.

I would be alright having extinct animals be added to the game where, as you suggest, can be verified as to how they looked. This would include the Tasmanian Tiger since there is actual video of the animal. Any animals that once existed and all we have to go on is bones and fossils I would say should be left out of the game simply because any depiction of what they actually looked like is speculative. Maybe a history/museum building would be acceptable to include in the game?
 
I was going through this info graphic: extinct animals caused by humans

After looking at it I got a bit sad but also thought this would make a really good DLC, we would be able to see what has been lost due to our species, learn things about those animals, how they went extinct and make a point why conversation and a better handling of the planet are crucial for the future.
Human-caused extinction extends much longer than just the common era, our entire Holocene calendar marks extictions caused by our species. Woolly mammoths, ground sloths, and much more all met their end (at least partially) due to human overhunting.
 
There's a zoo sim game already coming out soon that's dedicated solely to dinosaurs and extinct animals. It even has a lot of the features that PZ does.

Considering the demographic PZ has carved out for itself (a realistic animal zoo game), it would be smart to stay in that area, at least for now, rather than release DLC that would be in direct competition with a full game. Not to mention it would be in direct competition with their own title, JWE.

Didn't know that !
Got it the first hit of my search result and seen the video.. There are a lot of similarities and features in this game.. Basically what they are asking, will be a part of that game.

If there's a game focused on dinos and Extinct animals (already saw the Mammoth, Megaloceros and Cave bear), I would highly recommend looking for this game.

I'm against Extinct animals for PZ, i really don't like the idea and imo damages the goal of this game (animal realism)

This part of the quoted message from Silhouette, sums it up pretty much for me.

Edit: Unable to mix them with present-day animals, to me not a reason why PZ should have DLC like this.. You don't ask other games to mix element from another game because you feel this game should have this.. Just buy both games..
You don't ask for laserguns or primitive weapons from another game to be added to BF5, because you want all weapons combined in 1 game.
Or weapons from this era transferred to SW battlefield.
 
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I'm against Extinct animals for PZ, i really don't like the idea and imo damages the goal of this game (animal realism)

This part of the quoted message from Silhouette, sums it up pretty much for me.

Edit: Unable to mix them with present-day animals, to me not a reason why PZ should have DLC like this.. You don't ask other games to mix element from another game because you feel this game should have this.. Just buy both games..
You don't ask for laserguns or primitive weapons from another game to be added to BF5, because you want all weapons combined in 1 game.
Or weapons from this era transferred to SW battlefield.
"Realism" is a marketing tactic that can be broken with DLC. You're still allowed to follow realism yourself, but the company shouldn't be forced to because of you.
There's no game that currently has what I look to do, recreate Holocene environments to their fullest. This requires extinct animals to do so, like it or not. Don't tell others they can't want something because you don't like it.
And since you don't like it, just don't buy it. What force is making the purchase of extinct DLC obligatory?
 
Again someone with marketing tactic comment. [Sarcasm] Great compliment for Frontier's work [/Sarcasm]

Judging from most comments on this forum, most people are against it for several reasons.
And again with the buying argument: It has nothing to do with buying DLC. How many times do people need to explain this? Adding such DLC will taint the image of the game, somehow people who want extinct animals, don't understand this !

We want them to focus on DLC that compliment the current game (a zoo game focused on animal realism). Extinct animals is way off and doesn't do this for us.
If you're not happy with the main features of a game, just don't buy it. This applies to basically every game.. Sounds a bit ungrateful for the great game we'll be getting in November.

The Pre-Alpha game that focuses on this, is similar to PZ. Maybe you can ask them to add some creatures for your Holocene needs.
 
Don't tell others they can't want something because you don't like it.

He didn't. He just gave his opinion and backed that up with some examples.

And since you don't like it, just don't buy it. What force is making the purchase of extinct DLC obligatory?

Nothing, But this has no value in a discussion and is just a lame excuse of typing something to counter a valid argument.

The point the people that are not into Extinct animals are trying to make, is they want Frontier to spend their time and resources on other stuff and not some stuff from the Ice Age.

I'm with NL_Mutso anyways. No way we will get Extinct animals (this soon).
 
Again someone with marketing tactic comment. [Sarcasm] Great compliment for Frontier's work [/Sarcasm]

Judging from most comments on this forum, most people are against it for several reasons.
And again with the buying argument: It has nothing to do with buying DLC. How many times do people need to explain this? Adding such DLC will taint the image of the game, somehow people who want extinct animals, don't understand this !

We want them to focus on DLC that compliment the current game (a zoo game focused on animal realism). Extinct animals is way off and doesn't do this for us.
If you're not happy with the main features of a game, just don't buy it. This applies to basically every game.. Sounds a bit ungrateful for the great game we'll be getting in November.

The Pre-Alpha game that focuses on this, is similar to PZ. Maybe you can ask them to add some creatures for your Holocene needs.
Referring to marketing as what it is isn't meant to antagonize Frontier. Marketing is done by literally every business, and if anything it's beneficial that business do marketing. But it also shouldn't be stuck to vehemently if it means losing out on potential income sources.

You've got any statistics for this "most comments" made by "most people"? Any polls you'd like to bring up?

How will optional DLC ruin the base game? You'd never be forced to buy it, so what's stopping you from not buying it?

Who is this "We" you bring up?

Extinct animals not being in PZ is far from a deal-breaker for me, I've already pre-ordered the game. It's just something I aspire for a few years down the pipe.

Prehistoric Kingdom isn't adding extant animals for obvious reasons. Meanwhile, zoo games have historically been flexible with how a "zoo" is defined. All holocene animals are allowed to be in PZ, regardless of your gatekeeping.

He didn't. He just gave his opinion and backed that up with some examples.

Nothing, But this has no value in a discussion and is just a lame excuse of typing something to counter a valid argument.

The point the people that are not into Extinct animals are trying to make, is they want Frontier to spend their time and resources on other stuff and not some stuff from the Ice Age.

I'm with NL_Mutso anyways. No way we will get Extinct animals (this soon).
Fair enough.

How is that nothing of value? If there's a logical answer, it should be provided. You can't just sweep it under the rug because "it's lame".

And likewise, I disagree.
 
How is that nothing of value? If there's a logical answer, it should be provided. You can't just sweep it under the rug because "it's lame".

Because you are stating the obvious, we won't buy it.
Which actually underlines why Frontier shouldn't make it, as there might not be enough revenue to back the costs.

People who are out of arguments, either say, "don't buy it" or "Fanboys", which to me is the same as: "I'm out of arguments but I have to say something". (MY OPINION).

To add: I think I contributed enough on this topic. So I'll leave this here and move on and comment the same on the next Extinct animal thread that opens.
 
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Because you are stating the obvious, we won't buy it.
Which actually underlines why Frontier shouldn't make it, as there might not be enough revenue to back the costs.

People who are out of arguments, either say, "don't buy it" or "Fanboys", which to me is the same as: "I'm out of arguments but I have to say something". (MY OPINION).

To add: I think I contributed enough on this topic. So I'll leave this here and move on and comment the same on the next Extinct animal thread that opens.
Extinct DLC has been in several zoo games (the first 2 Zoo Tycoon games and all 3 Wildlife Park games), so it's clearly something that brings profit.

That's quite a bold opinion for a "my opinion" to be suddenly slapped onto it. No offence, but that sounds like a scapegoat to deny criticism toards your claim.
Yep, another user : you have to point out this, you need evidence this, statistics that...
Run out of arguments, again?

Just from other topics, the majority of those reponses were 'no'

I don't have to anything, I don't cater to rude people.
How does asking for proof mean I've run out of arguments? You've claimed a point, I asked for it to be backed up. The burden of proof is on you. I can say that 9 million users here have asked for bigfoot-mermaid hybrids, but that doesn't mean I can prove said claim.
If anyone's rude, it's the person who's claiming their opposition has "run out of arguments", to be frank.
 
From a business POV, you can probably forget dinosaurs. JWE was a licensed game and as such probably carries a non-compete clause.

My personal opinion is that the game should focus on extant (non-cetacean) animals until the pool is thoroughly exhausted. The game's message is about conservation, rather than spectacle.
 
Extinct DLC has been in several zoo games (the first 2 Zoo Tycoon games and all 3 Wildlife Park games), so it's clearly something that brings profit.

That's quite a bold opinion for a "my opinion" to be suddenly slapped onto it. No offence, but that sounds like a scapegoat to deny criticism toards your claim.

No offense taken. No harm done.

Can you please show me what the profits where of the Extinct animals DLC's of ZT and WLP?

I would like to see some proof of said claim.

Them making a DLC does not mean it's profitable.
 
How does asking for proof mean I've run out of arguments? You've claimed a point, I asked for it to be backed up. The burden of proof is on you. I can say that 9 million users here have asked for bigfoot-mermaid hybrids, but that doesn't mean I can prove said claim.
If anyone's rude, it's the person who's claiming their opposition has "run out of arguments", to be frank.

Yep, i responded by pointing out the other topics.. Go look for yourself…
Burden of proof on me? No, is there a 'Hitchhicker's Guide to the Galaxy' part covering this? No, just your opinion.
Referencing is good enough. Maybe not for you, but who cares?
You demand proof… I don't care about your demands.. Demanding is rude, especially with that tone. And the other part is just rabble, attempt to an argument?

That last part is really enjoying.. This is basically confirming my previous comment. Love comments like that!

I leave at this, don't want to waste my time...
 
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