Mighty lot of applications, registrations, and requirements I see hidden under the red text. I think it was easier for me to join the real Navy that it would be to join your squadron, LOL. As a typically lone-wolf player who is interested in occasional but consistently available, meaningful PvP, I still don't think this is the answer for me. I'm still holding out for a PvP-friendly CG (combat zones, pirates vs. bounty hunters, etc).All of those channels you see are text channels, there is no intrusive voice...you are not required to join a voice channel, in fact I find people who are always in the voice channels a bit weirdThe only voice channel visible in that shot is the bar phone.
Mighty lot of applications, registrations, and requirements I see hidden under the red text. I think it was easier for me to join the real Navy that it would be to join your squadron, LOL. As a typically lone-wolf player who is interested in occasional but consistently available, meaningful PvP, I still don't think this is the answer for me. I'm still holding out for a PvP-friendly CG (combat zones, pirates vs. bounty hunters, etc).
Not that I don't appreciate your tenacity
With all the paranoia generated around the tool (obviously tin foil hattery), it's understandable under the circumstances wouldn't you say?
Dude...please...more misunderstandings, why do you assume SO MUCH!!!?Mighty lot of applications, registrations, and requirements I see hidden under the red text. I think it was easier for me to join the real Navy that it would be to join your squadron, LOL. As a typically lone-wolf player who is interested in occasional but consistently available, meaningful PvP, I still don't think this is the answer for me. I'm still holding out for a PvP-friendly CG (combat zones, pirates vs. bounty hunters, etc).
Not that I don't appreciate your tenacity
So, wait, you're saying it's suspicious that the dev would contact a known outlaw (we all know exactly who you are, lol), when he starts running database queries using a LAWFUL tool? Riiiiight, that's super suspicious.
Tbh, I wouldn't want to sign up with Inara neither just to do stuff with players.With all the paranoia generated around the tool (obviously tin foil hattery), it's understandable under the circumstances wouldn't you say?
Dude...please...more misunderstandings, why do you assume SO MUCH!!!?
ONE registration that any serious Elite player will have already done, the biggest third party ED site on the web, Inara. Come on!!
We have a war starting today (in 15 minutes to be exact!!), that will have mostly pve CZs with a light smattering of pvp (inside said CZs, we expect to encounter enemy commanders, the last time we won this war, we did). It's an important one as well, stopping a nutbag theocracy making further inroads toward earth. Once again, I have EXACTLY what you want, but you refuse to take the offering!!! I'm done, honestly. Here is my last attempt, a screenshot of the current BGS ops channel...
So, wait, you're saying it's suspicious that the dev would contact a known outlaw (we all know exactly who you are, lol), when he starts running database queries using a LAWFUL tool? Riiiiight, that's super suspicious.
Also, EDR only has a bad name amongst those with an extremely poor understanding of such things.
Sure, my joining requirements are what they are for myriad reasons, if they are too much for someone, that is their issue not mine. The registration I require is not even specific to my squadron, it's general registration to an important site for any elite player, so my requirements are hardly excessive, 90% of joiners already had inara profiles.
Well I have to say, I am curious what you were doing myself. I've never run a single command query... As for github being a wilderness, come off it, the code is there for you to read, it couldn't BE more transparent.
Yeh, I can see why that would set off alarm bells, it's equivalent to console access. I've never done that. And if I did I wouldn't be surprised to be asked what I was trying to do. The bot is for processing queries and that is by application and approval only. He probably just happened to be reading the logs or watching activity at the time. As you say this was a long time ago, the tool and the attitudes have all matured since then.
That program has always struck me as pretty suspicious.
Who's the dev? I thought it was LeKeno, but not sure about that
It is lekeno, and nobody else. There is nothing fishy about it Jason, I promise. You know me, if there was ANY negative connotation, I wouldn't be using it. The bot is another matter, that's down to discord owners to set it up right. There was a huge hoo-ha about it scraping discord channels, during the famous leak from the Citadel, a screenshot keeps doing the rounds where lekeno is discussing with SPEAR reps what it can and can't scrape, taken totally out of context. The point there is that if set up properly it can't snoop your discords, and the instructions to prevent it doing so are included with the account. It is no different from any other bot in that respect (and I know some other bots in outlaw discords that are truly scary, so EDR is hardly worth your concern). Plus ALL the source code is available for ANYONE to review.
Be careful of what? Of it spotting your alts and telling people who you really are? lol. Yeh, be careful of that. Inara itself is doing that, no other software needed, it's why I require all my members to sign up at inara.
I know him, too, and I regard him with a healthy degree of skepticism when it comes to this program. I think he has a dreadful attitude concerning this aspect of the game (he genuinely believes PvPers are "bad people in rl" based on their game play preferences) and I wouldn't put anything past him in this regard. I heavily lean towards Lateralus's viewpoint here.
