Planet Zoo - Franchise Mode Feedback
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Acquiring CC of course will be different. At least it will come from releasing animals back to the while or quick sell. Probably that's it.
I am quoting the OP that came from the CM Paul_Crowther himself, which states
Without any new announcement about this new mode, how are you 100% confident there won't be CC.
Considering that the dev post says that there will be CC in the offline franchise mode I don't think we should count them out just yet. I guess we'll find out soon enough
Fair enough.
Ok, I have some doubt. But that doesn't change my mind about it being logical that they would be in the Challenge mode. It seems like an unnecessary headache for them to be in that mode, IMHO.
EDIT: Searching for source to back up my say first. be right back
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I've already stated that I "have some doubt", in case you missed my stating so. The reason why I now have some doubt is in part due to what was written by the OP of this thread and the fact, with further thought and consideration, that it might create issues if the conservation credits were removed from that mode of the game. Although there still might have been the need to rewrite some of the coding because of the market.
Just to note, this thread was started on September 27th. As unlikely as it might be, that means there is ample time for the dev's to have changed their minds. We won't know for certain until Nov 5th.
What makes challenge mode a challenge then. You think cash is enough as a challenge?
As from the OP, it's Franchise mode without any of the online elements. That's it.
They still want to promote conservation using conservation credits.
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The entire point of "Offline franchise" is for it to be like franchise, but offline. That's why it will still have conservation credits, since it allows you to have a common currency between multiple saves. You simply won't get them from trading, instead from elsewhere, like releasing animals to the wild. All while retaining the properties of Franchise.
Do you make it a habit of speaking for others?
Did you forget that the OP also stated the following:
Those statements suggests that there will be aspects of the Franchise mode that will not be available in the Challenge mode. Those statements do not clarify that the only things missing from the new Challenge mode is that it will be offline and players won't be able to trade between players, there won't be leaderboards zoos and there won't be Community Challenges. There could be other aspects of the franchise mode that will not be present in the new Challenge mode. For that matter there could even be things in the new Challenge mode that won't be in the Franchise mode. In the following video from EGX it is mentioned, albeit vaguely, that there will be "zoo challenges in the new mode:
Brand New Footage & ANIMAL REVEAL! | Planet Zoo EGX Stream Video
At the 2:34 mark the topic in regards to the new Challenge Mode begins. The dev's mention that the Community Challenges will be "replaced with zoo challenges" (keyword: replaced). Conservation Credits was not mentioned by the dev's in that video. In either case we can see there is a difference, even if it is a small difference, between what was written by the OP in this thread and what the dev's spoke about in the video of them at EGX. We shan't, therefore, take anything that has been stated by the dev's as golden as they might have changed things but have not informed the public of those changes. So I reiterate: We won't know a thing for certain until Nov 5th when the game is fully released.
@ Not_Dipper - Just because the two modes are supposed to be 'similar' it does not mean they will be the same. One difference is the "zoo challenges" of the Challenge mode vs the Community Challenges. We have only the Community Challenge in the Beta to go by to even try to ascertain what is meant by "zoo challenges". Sure we can assume anything that we want. But that's all all of are doing at this point in time. We are all 'assuming' things but none of us know with any real degree of certainty. So I reiterate: We won't know a thing for certain until Nov 5th when the game is fully released.
As meimento said "without any online elements". It's logical that community goals and online trading isn't in the challenge mode, as these logical require a contact to a server.
And we were talking about Conservation Credit. I really don't get why you persists that somethiing might have changed and the Dev is suddenly wrong now, instead of simply saying "oh, didn't readt that. Wonder for what CC will be then."
You see not mentioning CC now as an evidence that they were scratched instead ot taking in consideration that they just didn't mention the feature AGAIN.
Enrichment wasn't mention as well - does that mean now we wonÄt get enrichment items in challange mode? And OMG, they didn't say we can unlock all animals in franchise and chalange mode. I bet we only get elephants and lions.
And we were talking about Conservation Credit. I really don't get why you persists that somethiing might have changed and the Dev is suddenly wrong now, instead of simply saying "oh, didn't readt that. Wonder for what CC will be then."
You see not mentioning CC now as an evidence that they were scratched instead ot taking in consideration that they just didn't mention the feature AGAIN.
Enrichment wasn't mention as well - does that mean now we wonÄt get enrichment items in challange mode? And OMG, they didn't say we can unlock all animals in franchise and chalange mode. I bet we only get elephants and lions.
frontier deserves a better expo host, at least someone, that did it before.
As meimento said "without any online elements". It's logical that community goals and online trading isn't in the challenge mode, as these logical require a contact to a server.
And we were talking about Conservation Credit. I really don't get why you persists that somethiing might have changed and the Dev is suddenly wrong now, instead of simply saying "oh, didn't readt that. Wonder for what CC will be then."
You see not mentioning CC now as an evidence that they were scratched instead ot taking in consideration that they just didn't mention the feature AGAIN.
Enrichment wasn't mention as well - does that mean now we wonÄt get enrichment items in challange mode? And OMG, they didn't say we can unlock all animals in franchise and chalange mode. I bet we only get elephants and lions.
You people do know that I CAN speak for myself don't you? Telling others what they 'should have said' or 'what they mean is' IS you speaking for them. There is no reason for you to become nasty, snide, and almost hostile. Mocking people because they don't see things your way is you being nasty snide. Let's refrain from turning this discussion into a mudslinging contest. Remember, this is a discussion. Also, I don't have to agree with you.
Yes, it's true that for a moment we were talking about conservation credits. We are also discussing the new Challenge mode in general. We are discussing what we think or expect what the Challenge Mode might be like. Conversations often take turns and the subject or focus of a conversation shifts a little. As long as we are on topic with what the OP stated there should be no issues.
In regards to the CC's I literally DID state:
You conveniently and continuously disregard that I made such comment even after I told you a second time that I made that comment.
No one said anyone was 'wrong', except a few of you have said that of me while using that exact word. Although you don't know for a fact that you're right. I've stated is what was said nearly a month ago may not be exactly what the end product will be (key phrase: 'may not be'. NOT 'will be'). I merely suggested that through the process of the dev's copy/pasting the franchise into the new mode some of the coding would have to be tweaked (changed) which could result in issues with other aspects of the code so more might have needed changed than what had been originally thought by the dev's. Only they know for certain. Which is why I keep reiterating that we won't know a thing for certain until Nov 5th when the game is fully released.
In all fairness anything IS evidence of everything. Just don't confuse evidence as being proof. Often they are not one in the same. I have presented quite a bit of evidence that supports most of what I have stated. Regardless I know that even what I might suggest and have showed evidence of may not be what the finished product will look like. I also know that it is possible for the dev's to change things after the release on Nov 5th. I've seen that happen in other games. When patches are released that 'balance' aspects of games is evidence that shows that those things that the dev's 'balanced' weren't working in a way that the dev's intended them to work or the dev's didn't like how things were working even if the game was working how they originally intended.
WingardiumLevicoaster
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Can we keep the conversation friendly please
Hmm, I doubt that. That would mean a mode-switch everytime you go offline. And if that would be possible, they could have simply add an offline function to franchise mode. The whole trading with other players makes it neccessary, that the game keeps track of the animals and their relationships (genetically). I guess if you start online, play for month offline and then go online again, it might screw up the system. Then again, same would happen if someone is taking a longer break... hmmm... complicated.
I'd love to have these modes merge, since it would mean less on our plates and no decision which modes we want to play (who has time for franchise AND challenge?), but I'm rather pessimistic on this.
However, what I'd like to know is, if our zoos will be connected with each other in challenge mode, just like in franchise. Was that already said somewhere?
That was my initial point. And I can't believe such a simple question led to all this hassle
In theory, it should be just like Franchise in that regard (multiple zoos within the same 'company', all sharing animals and CC), but it hasn't really been clarified yet.
That was my initial point. And I can't believe such a simple question led to all this hassle
In theory, it should be just like Franchise in that regard (multiple zoos within the same 'company', all sharing animals and CC), but it hasn't really been clarified yet.
I already answered it back here
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/planet-zoo-franchise-mode-feedback.523950/page-5#post-8098127I already answered it back here
Do you know if they said in anywhere? Or do you just assume? I assume as well, but am a bit cautios on this one, actually.
They said its franchise zoo, without the online portion. hence the functionality of the franchise is still exactly the same.
A franchise that contains many zoos, with a trading center that can be shared between all. That what the franchise is.
WingardiumLevicoaster
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I actually found it difficult, as the decisions I made early on meant I struggled to get enough credits to afford any decent animal. Then my animals that were ok breeders that made some credits died and I couldn't afford to replace them. So my zoo just kind of stagnated.