ANNOUNCEMENT Community Update (22/10)
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Okay, in advance, this is an angry and frustrated post but I will try to keep it civil.
You have messed up. Telling people to wait 2 years for whatever the hell comes next (don't ask us, we haven't a clue) was ridiculous and you have apparently dialed things right back in the live game, relying on "the community" to provide entertainment and hoping (wrongly) that the scanty resources that you have allocated will keep the game and it's updates competent. You failed. They are demonstrably incompetent.
Now, Fleet Carriers, the one thing that you actually told us something about, and gave us to look forward to, you've screwed that up as well - Again!
This is not your finest hour Frontier, as I see it, though, it is your crappest.
Oh, and to add further insult you're going to say sweet adams about development of the game for the best part of another year, assuming no delays, which statistically is looking unlikely.
If you had a team working on how to naff people off, I'm not sure they could do a better job than you're doing right now.
My suggestions:
Start trusting your customers with some actual information about the game's development.
Allocate more resources to the game, so you don't look incompetent and can provide substantial content on a realistic and timely basis.
Get a bloody grip.
Echoing what Mengy wrote, I hope that the delay isn't so long that the player community disperse to the corners of the galaxy.
I am generally in favour of this decision, as long as it is used effectively to fix long-standing weaknesses in the foundations. Think about all the multiplayer instancing and session sync issues that make Multicrew unreliable and limited, made it impossible to find a CQC match, still result in occupied pad allocations, and cause miscalculations in MC and Wing play. No doubt these would have also hobbled Fleet Carriers on the old timelines.
Perhaps, once Fleet Carrier planned features are done, the newsletter could start to trail design concepts and talk about the completed earlier parts of the development process, to keep people excited? Not talking about stuff until a month before release leaves a feeling of uncertainty, that development is speculative and could fail and have to be binned at any stage. cough Offline Mode.
And whenever New Era comes out, I hope it has the graphical polish to attract a New Era player cohort. Seven years is an eternity in game development, to make a 'new game' sized expansion worthwhile, it will need to look like a new game, not a (however polished) DX11 engine from 2013.
It FEELS like the game is still in BETA and we are all early backers and play testers.
But its been out 5 years.
That s*it aint right.
While slowing releases down sucks because we were all really looking forward to fleet carriers. I fully support throughly checking the releases and concentrating on quality of life improvements for a quarter or two.
What about an 18 month delay for new content?
FIVE YEARS,
Initial thought is well done FD but this feels like Beyond all over again. That was a year of making the core game better and fixing bugs, IMO they didn't go far enough with either.
So we come full circle. Well I think they are doing the right thing for the long term health of the game. Shame about Fleet carriers but I'm more interested in the game being playable right now.
One observation someone made about "isn't bug fixing in an MMO just business as usual?" In ED it isn't, and it should be and this need to spend 9 months fixing the game and delaying content is directly attributable to the policy of not fixing the game on a regular and ongoing basis.
So we come full circle. Well I think they are doing the right thing for the long term health of the game. Shame about Fleet carriers but I'm more interested in the game being playable right now.
One observation someone made about "isn't bug fixing in an MMO just business as usual?" In ED it isn't, and it should be and this need to spend 9 months fixing the game and delaying content is directly attributable to the policy of not fixing the game on a regular and ongoing basis.
Beta testing, hooray. Bug fixing also hooray. Please also include great documention of bug fixes so that they don't get reintroduced on the next update. And please give the BGS and PP some love.
Remember enthusiasm?
Seems like a long time ago...
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTtiGxJIFyM
Seems like a long time ago...
Stunning logic. Now I finally understand! Software development is (of course) binary! You have new content OR you have fixes. Thanks for clearing that up.
I can understand the need of working trough out all the bugs accumulated over the last year, or two or 3... I do have a problem with the way it's presented tough.
#1 Yes attacking the bug is a good thing, and i'm happy they are listening to the community and finally make that move. But, that means that in fact to get that kind of commitment from frontier, the community had to raises it voice, making it look like it was perfectly acceptable for frontier before...
#2 Focusing on bug fixing for half a year almost exclusively is... weird... but i'm not a dev therefore I can't judge that. But I am troubled by the fact that they now need to push any kind of update the middle of next year in order to fix their game.
#3 One of the thing that was mentioned in the open letter from the community was the lack of information given to the community. This was not addressed at all. The update posted by Will did not tell us anything except, '' No content update for the foreseeable future, we will fix the bugs in the issue tracker thingy first '' Luring the BIG content update in the year 2021...
So yeah all in all, nothing has really changed, and that particular update smells like Public relation more than anything else.
#1 Yes attacking the bug is a good thing, and i'm happy they are listening to the community and finally make that move. But, that means that in fact to get that kind of commitment from frontier, the community had to raises it voice, making it look like it was perfectly acceptable for frontier before...
#2 Focusing on bug fixing for half a year almost exclusively is... weird... but i'm not a dev therefore I can't judge that. But I am troubled by the fact that they now need to push any kind of update the middle of next year in order to fix their game.
#3 One of the thing that was mentioned in the open letter from the community was the lack of information given to the community. This was not addressed at all. The update posted by Will did not tell us anything except, '' No content update for the foreseeable future, we will fix the bugs in the issue tracker thingy first '' Luring the BIG content update in the year 2021...
So yeah all in all, nothing has really changed, and that particular update smells like Public relation more than anything else.
Same here, maybe we have lower standards? I know many are praising the bug fixes, but let's see what actually gets fixed before heaping on the praise! I am really gutted, guess I will get over it in a few days, but it really hurts right now.
My worry with this is they spend 12 months putting in fixes and then inevitably totally destablise everything with the new release. Inadvertently lose some of the fixes because they are on a different branch and we go around again.
Meanwhile we go 12 months with zero content added.
I would suggest a number of what I think might be small changes, but might encourage more people into open and playing CQC, whilst at the same time generating some interest in the game while we wait impatiently for content.
CQC - increase financial rewards by a factor of 1000.
Until the new Era is out. Players in open with a clean rank killed in a none anarchy system, get a full discount on their rebuy and compensation for any cargo.
Meanwhile we go 12 months with zero content added.
I would suggest a number of what I think might be small changes, but might encourage more people into open and playing CQC, whilst at the same time generating some interest in the game while we wait impatiently for content.
CQC - increase financial rewards by a factor of 1000.
Until the new Era is out. Players in open with a clean rank killed in a none anarchy system, get a full discount on their rebuy and compensation for any cargo.
They never said fleet carriers are the top priority, just that they have a new priority. That can either be priority 50/100 or 1/100.where do you see in my quote that says "out of update"? oh c´mon man, I have provided you with evidences and you don't see it ,after that I can't argue anything else .
if you want have the reason, just take it .
EDITED: OK ,if says that,i couldnt see in first moment.... out of chapter 4 they said,chapter 4 release the past december.
anyway, they lied in those 2 priorities ,How can you not see that were clearly others?
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