I'm more concerned about the comet/asteroid that near-missed us a few years ago and is coming round for another go in thirty years or so, with predictions that it could hit. 
Elite / Frontier Big Bang Day - 10th Sep 2008
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You got me thinking of the episode where Homer gets obese so he can work at home and gets a PC installed at home. The instructions tell him to press the enter key and Homer goes "Which one is enter ?" (of course if you look at your keyboard it is a funny shaped arrow)
LOL
EDIT : Thinking about it they could be the same episode !
yeah - anyone seen the episode, "Bart's Comet"? Really is excellent - incredibly funny from start to finish...
I'm more concerned about the comet/asteroid that near-missed us a few years ago and is coming round for another go in thirty years or so, with predictions that it could hit.
not sure what one that is - there was an asteroid that just missed Mars in January/February this year though - Asteroid 2007 WD5 it was called
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/080108-mars-asteroid-update.html
think it's due for another close encounter with Earth/Mars around the year 2076-2086 - can't remember when it is exactly - around 2080 anyway...
edit: the one you're talking about though sounds like asteroid Apophis though:
http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/apophis/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99942_Apophis
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Woooh, just looking at that site made me feel like I was in 'Deep Impact'!!
That's it ! Here we are.. tomorrow is the DDay...
i would say thanks to anyone in this forum, it was a pleasure to discuss with all of you.
It was fun.
Bye...
weeeell they are only powering the sucker up - there will be no collisions for another couple of weeks AFAIK.
EDIT: Yeah turn on is tomorrow where they will attempt to actually just get the beam of particles to get all the way around the tunnel because if any of the 2000 electromagnetic units around the Hadron Collider are calibrated wrong then the particles won't complete the circuit.
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Thee BBC have said (so it must be true) that the LHC experiment result will be 1000 x hotter than the sun.
Thats bad right ?
If it's going to be that hot won't it melt the LHC, the Earth and destroy the planet ? More probable than a black hole ?
Oh ..... you've all gone to bed. Great now i'll never get an answer from Steve O B Have on this.
(picture the four musicians from the film "Titanic")
Oh well it's been an honour playing with you all.
EDIT : It's now 8 am (UK time) and BB Day is T - Minus 30 minutes.
If you still need this experiment explained Watch This Very Funny !
Thats bad right ?
If it's going to be that hot won't it melt the LHC, the Earth and destroy the planet ? More probable than a black hole ?
Oh ..... you've all gone to bed. Great now i'll never get an answer from Steve O B Have on this.
(picture the four musicians from the film "Titanic")
Oh well it's been an honour playing with you all.
EDIT : It's now 8 am (UK time) and BB Day is T - Minus 30 minutes.
If you still need this experiment explained Watch This Very Funny !
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Thee BBC have said (so it must be true) that the LHC experiment result will be 1000 x hotter than the sun.
Thats bad right ?
If it's going to be that hot won't it melt the LHC, the Earth and destroy the planet ? More probable than a black hole ?
Oh ..... you've all gone to bed. Great now i'll never get an answer from Steve O B Have on this.
(picture the four musicians from the film "Titanic")
Oh well it's been an honour playing with you all.
EDIT : It's now 8 am (UK time) and BB Day is T - Minus 30 minutes.
If you still need this experiment explained Watch This Very Funny !
LOL You could always Google it!
I would suspect (and this is only guessing - you might have to verify this youself) but the temperature is created on such a small scale that it has plenty of room to dissipate. I would suggest that a good analogy would be throwing a hot stone in a lake - the immediate water might warm up a bit and right next to the stone boil but a little further out - very little effect.
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I think they are going to test the beam one way then the other, I don't think they're going to do any colliding today, but I might be wrong.
Yes sorry I checked it out a bit on the Big Bang Day site (see link in post #1)
Then I edited my post.
Sorry for any confusion. I'll leave that to CERN in Geneva.
I do have a habit of editing my posts a little after I post them.
Just look at how many pots say Reason : Perfectionist At Work.
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To be honest I'm surprised that there was that much media coverage, the only reason the media went a but nuts on it was the Black Hole risk which is infinitessimale (even if a black hole is created it would be so small etc..) I would assume that as these particles are constant in our universe anyway, the collision of particles are happening all around us constantly so mini black holes are appearing all the time.....So thats where your car keys go!!!!
Well, we're all still here. How disappointing, I was expecting a tremor at least...
As Professor Brian C ox says, the sort of collisions (with the same level of energy) which will take place in the LHC happen many times per second in the upper levels of our atmosphere, and we don't seem to be getting sucked into any universe-destroying black holes!
Either the black holes are not created, or they are created and last for a ridiculously short period of time before evaporating.
Having said that, as you say, the coverage is only really as extensive as it is because of the alleged controversy. The scientists at CERN probably allowed the controversy somewhat because it increased their profile. Without the media reports of the world ending, today would probably have passed without the slightest bit of interest from the majority. Which is a bit of a shame, because this experiment could prove to be very important in the long run!
I agree, though once the black hole business got out, it's hard to imagine being able to contain it anyway. Plus they did try to explain why that wouldn't/shouldn't happen.
CERN were in a win/win situation with this. If the planet didn't get swallowed by a black hole they'd created then their profile has been raised enormously, which can't be a bad thing. If we did get crushed by the singularity, who's going to be around to complain?
I was amazed by the coverage the whole thing got; every newspaper and radio station seemed to be covering it. The station I was listening to while driving to work this morning had it as their lead news story
I don't know. At least in my home country the media seems to have turned around and after having broadcast the end-of-the-world message they are now accusing the cern scientists of scaring the children.
I would laugh if the media's behaviour wasn't so sad.
I found a web cam for the Hadron Collider - watch it for a little bit - it's quite interesting.
http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html
http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html