Data point: I was willing to spend money for paintjobs when I could see exactly what it would cost me. Since this ARX nonsense came in, I haven't spent anything at all
Midnight Black (Friday) paintjobs now available
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Personally speaking, just my opinion, I think the Midnight Black paint jobs don't really look good on many ships. I think for it to really work, the whole ship should be black. Especially the Cutter, Fer-de-Lance, and Type 9. There are too many sections on these ships that don't get covered and those sections then look out of place.
Damn right, just like they provided a currency exchange from British Pound to all other currencies so we knew exactly how much we were spending in 'our' money.
Yeah that's exactly it. They made a deliberate decision to obfuscate prices (undeniable, refer to the prior frontier point system) but testament to their skill, they made the prices come across as more expensive while doing so. At least you can argue there's no bias against player centric features, its the same standard for all.
I think a number of people myself included have adapted and found out its possible to be much cheaper (ie, free) for players than it used to be.
We all want a good game. Some people adore frontier the company and have personal needs for frontier to be positive. But there's only so much you say when they do it again... to features they build exclusively for themselves even.
Also just in case frontier are mature enough to get over my "you did it again" posts.. the thumbnails on the web store look so much better than the in game preview. In the past, i would have probably bought about half a dozen on more than one account just sitting on the website. Got in game and ended up with 2. I guess i should pipe down and be grateful / stop faux white knighting.
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Hmm, I dunno.
FD are ebil! They won't show us how much real money it costs to trap us into buying!
FD are incompetent! Their arx values are so high it discourages purchase!
Can't win either way. ¯\(ツ)/¯
FD are ebil! They won't show us how much real money it costs to trap us into buying!
FD are incompetent! Their arx values are so high it discourages purchase!
Can't win either way. ¯\(ツ)/¯
Yeah, it's a mess.
FDev kinda screwed themselves over by making everything seem more expensive and discouraging some of their customers from buying cosmetics, while also making everyone else angry about trying to 'trap them into buying cosmetics'.
I almost feel bad for FDev.
Oh, I wouldn't feel sorry for them. FD are clearly making money and ED is clearly a successful game.
What paintjobs fit on the Cobra MK IV?
I checked the ARX store on the website, but I can't find any. If anyone could help me out, I'd really appreciate it.
Cheers!
I checked the ARX store on the website, but I can't find any. If anyone could help me out, I'd really appreciate it.
Cheers!
I've logged on with my main account. When I select the paint jobs, there is a ship filter at the top where I can select "Cobra Mk IV". If you're not seeing it, then you're either not logged in, or the account you've used to log in doesn't have access to the Cobra Mk IV.
BTW, I don't think there is anything more complicated to ARX other than to have PC players purchase stuff the exact same way the console players do. Everyone is being treated the same. It would be nice to see an equivalent real-world value, but what value would that be? With or without the high-volume discount? There is no single conversion rate of ARX even to a specific currency.
Anyway, \o/ for Black Friday paint jobs. I got one for my alt acount Python.
Playing this game for years every ship I own and including some I didn't fly a lot as well as others I no longer fly own every midnight paint jobs including the SRV. It cannot help in combat as a player cannot turn off those lights on say a Python. But If I want to make a statement now and then midnight black with a new player hesitating to engage me has an advantage. Not so much with experienced players. They know better. But then it is all about intimidation...have fun.
An Impreial Eagle. Pretty intimidating loaded out with PvP engineered weapons. Enjoy the game.
An Impreial Eagle. Pretty intimidating loaded out with PvP engineered weapons. Enjoy the game.
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Yes, it's really black.
Everyone thinks they are so conscious and clever but science say they (including you and me) are not. We are bombarded by marketing tactics 24/7, whenever you turn on the TV or open your browser. And the very goal of marketing is to convince people to spend their money on things they don't need, by making them think or feel that they indeed need them. Making something "limited" or "exclusive" is part of these tactics as they make the customers feel like they acquire something "special" or "rare", so they are more willing to spend premium on something, especially if it's limited time only. The harsh reality is that the only people who really don't spend money are those who don't have any.
To answer your question: Personally, I'd like the Stygian paintjobs to be permanent in the store. Why? Because I don't know which ship I'll use in the long run from now, whether I'll go fighting, exploring, mining or anything. Right now I don't play the game regularly because of other obligations, thus I'd like more time to think about which colour to buy to which ship. I have the money and I'd be happy to spend a little bit on such a nice paintjob. But since I can't decide I'll probably won't buy any of them, because chances are it could turn out I chose the wrong colour, the wrong ship, or both. And this is where marketing comes in - by making these paintjobs limited time the game actually encourages me to buy more so I can decide later which to use. And I'll end up with other, obsolete paintjobs. I don't like this artificial time pressure so in the end I personally decided not to buy anything. When Black Friday and the holidays are over we'll all forget the "hype" and I'll have my money instead of paintjobs I don't use. (And before you ask, even the price of a paintjob matters to me, that's how my life is, unfortunately.)
The free Arx system fails here, too, because even 1 paintjob costs 9 weeks of active gameplay, and that is to someone who gets the 400 Arx every week. Anyone who participated in the Interstellar Initiatives, for example, probably don't have that much since trading doesn't give you anything.
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Agree with the issue of time limited offers.
Last year, I fell for it with MNB (bought more than I should have, some ships I don't fly at all or prefer different paints), but with Stygian I really bought them quite strategically; for small ships only and ones I know I will always have in my fleet, even if I some day perform an account reset.
If they were permanently offered, I'd probably buy more of them over time, especially with free Arx making them a little cheaper too.
When an offer is limited in the time only for a commercial purpose (and not by the limitation of stocks), I stiffen myself and systematically the revolt prevents me from buying.
I feel like I have a knife to my throat and I can’t stand this situation.
I feel like I have a knife to my throat and I can’t stand this situation.
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Yeah comparing FDev with SCS is almost a bit cruel - I consider the latter as the CDPR of the simworld.Yeah its bit of a non event for me. Though i think i just found a lead.. my newest account doesn't have a covas, im 300 arx short of being able to get one with the cheapest pack. Time to do some road to riches it think.
It was a bit of a dumbness shock how you've got your wallet out to throw at them and they made it harder for you to do them the favor. Mind blown.
I also play elite in hours more than the truck simulators, but SCS are wise enough not to pee people off. I haven't invested much in ets because the dlcs are more expensive, theres so many to catch up on (the audio is worse and i hate autobarn driving) but with ats i get all the dlc the moment its released. Maybe its because i happily pay frontier, but i can't give them a white knight pass when they're being absolute crap about their own game.... for the last 2 years. Its going to be a rude shock to the 3 people participating in the current beta just how well frontier "listen" to their feedback. Its going just like the past ones i participated in so far.
Also frontier... metallic BLACK.. not night before metallic recolor
Their DLC and cosmetics is of consistent quality, content is meaty (hence price is more than justified) and they even go back to older parts of the game to bring it up to the quality of newer content, for free.
They also keep players in the loop of what's in the pipeline, and quality control is never something I had to even think about (which is what you want really!).
I don't want to rip too much into FDev as Elite is still an amazing game and I enjoy it a lot obviously, I agree it could be better in terms of bugs but I've learned to live with many of them for now.
So I still get enjoyment out of paid content (in the form of skins only unfortunately for some time now) but when I compare its pricing to other games' offerings, I do ask myself sometimes what am I doing, but it passed quickly when I realise the money I spend is really peanuts in the great scheme of things and it does give me enjoyment, and that's what matters.
Same here.
I really don't feel the need to buy any Arx, none of the paintjobs really tickle my fancy, i'd rather have real world prices rather than this obfuscated mess.
Sorry FD, that's one closed wallet for you.
With a Garage feature I would like to see all my ships that are at a current location in one big hall, able to quicker perform swapping modules, I imagine animated robots buzzing around, some tranporting modules and stuff, others mounting & unmounting. You the Cmdr are armed with a virtual tablet to order swaps, transfers, and..... paint jobs... as you see fit!
Paint jobs whether time limited such as a Thanksgiving sale for midnight black has little or nothing to do with the ED game other than making the player feel good. In combat no enemy with NPC or live players cares about your paint job or all those spiffy decals you applied to your ship. All these cosmetics are about making the ship your own, personalizing it and feeling good about flying it. A Cutter can be default white, go with tactical white or midnight black. The color won't matter. The pilot skills makes all the difference.
Still I love my Cutter in galvanized cobalt. It makes me smile looking at the thing. Isn't that the point? That is why Frontier sells a lot of paint jobs.
Still I love my Cutter in galvanized cobalt. It makes me smile looking at the thing. Isn't that the point? That is why Frontier sells a lot of paint jobs.
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