Just trying to be honest, not to aggravate anybody.
You don't have to take it personally. Do/don't do what you want.
I can't complain about something I'm doing myself, is all.
General / Off-Topic Measles
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Just trying to be honest, not to aggravate anybody.
You don't have to take it personally. Do/don't do what you want.
I can't complain about something I'm doing myself, is all.
All we're missing is the alternate therapy guys coming in and saying polio, measles, etc were already declining before vaccines and they didn't actually make a difference. Present circumstances excepted of course...for reasons. 
Becks is back after a long absence.
I wish you good luck with a tenacious and quality interlocutor.
Becks is back after a long absence.
I wish you good luck with a tenacious and quality interlocutor.
Oh, Patrick, you're flattering me.
Welcome back Becks !
And no discussion on the Brexit here, ok ?
Thank you.
It's better if Brexit just stays out of this forum forever.
Of course, it's a deal between Boris and it, now.It's better if Brexit just stays out of this forum forever.
Then it's a good thing that the vast majority of people in western civ are and will continue to be vaccinated against it. And while it may be seriously contagious, it's actually less of a health risk than influenza or the Norovirus by a wide margin, so not seeing the point in creating a false panic by using trumped up statistics like the OP did.
In 2018 there were 371 confirmed measles cases in America. That's hundreds, people, not hundreds of thousands.
Measles resurgence in the United States - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
I will tell you what is going to be a problem, though, and it's entirely due to the kinds of people who've endorsed the mentality behind this thread: when antibiotics are no longer effective. That's coming, and it really is truly scary and it's entirely due to overuse by a demographic who think they can entirely needle or pill pop their way to security.
1) Those are international data. I did not "invent them". Nor was this O-post about the things you seem to think.
2) Antibiotics are a problem, but vaccination is not. Immunity is generated by our own bodies- either from the disease or the vaccine.
3) The significance of the rise of measles elsewhere than your country, and it's relationship to local antivaxxers has escaped you completely.
Read more: https://www.newscientist.com/articl...of-measles-in-the-us-this-year/#ixzz67e6fBkHL
The risk is not coming from within your borders. Why would I bother you with such low figures?
That's what I'm failing to convey to you. SO once again, I have to simplify it down to crayon drawings and finger puppets.
No doubt, you'll fail to get this too. Please disabuse yourself of the notion that you're smarter than anyone else on the board?
The "mentality behind the thread" is to stop your people from getting sick. That's the kind of thing "your enemies" are doing.
Christ on a cross...
Edit: You are now permanently on ignore, OK? Bye.
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Yah.
Robin starts a thread, I read OP then get the out of Dodge.
LOL -what can I say? It all starts off innocently...
Yeah...still not impressed, Robyn. All I'm seeing is you using (third) worldwide statistics to push some kind of weird narrative that we should be deeply and gravely concerned about measles in America when the statistics are so low that they almost aren't worth even mentioning, much less conflating with death statistics in the darkest heart of Africa.1) Those are international data. I did not "invent them". Nor was this O-post about the things you seem to think.
2) Antibiotics are a problem, but vaccination is not. Immunity is generated by our own bodies- either from the disease or the vaccine.
3) The significance of the rise of measles elsewhere than your country, and it's relationship to local antivaxxers has escaped you completely.
Read more: https://www.newscientist.com/articl...of-measles-in-the-us-this-year/#ixzz67e6fBkHL
The risk is not coming from within your borders. Why would I bother you with such low figures?
That's what I'm failing to convey to you. SO once again, I have to simplify it down to crayon drawings and finger puppets.
No doubt, you'll fail to get this too. Please disabuse yourself of the notion that you're smarter than anyone else on the board?
The "mentality behind the thread" is to stop your people from getting sick. That's the kind of thing "your enemies" are doing.
Christ on a cross...
Edit: You are now permanently on ignore, OK? Bye.
You can take your crayons and finger puppets, put me "permanently on ignore" and go stick them where the sun doesn't shine as far as I'm concerned. I'm just glad you and all your woke doctor buddies with their sudden diet change to vegan and luxury hybrid cars aren't anywhere near my health concerns, because after spending time with you on this forum it's really quite easy to see why health care is so broken.
You are not seeing well then, he posted an article about Measles cases in the US unless you think the US is a third world country lol.
He simply can't acknowledge that. You're with him or an Enemy, plotting to get him down together with the left, scary other countries, academia, the government, medical personnel, the media, teachers, climatologists and who knows whatever else. It doesn't matter if you dedicated a lifetime to the field of medicine, if you have a different opinion than Jason you must be having some secret agenda. Because the alternative, that Jason is simply wrong about something he has no training in or knowledge about is simply never an option.
Don't worry about it; he doesn't mean bad and you tried your best. At the end of the day some students are destined to flunk out no matter how clearly you explain something.
Aaaaaaand....wait for it....waaaaait for it....he used big scary numbers taken from the poorest, literally most screwed up places on the face of this planet like "140,000 deaths attributable" to sell his narrative when in fact the numbers are somewhere around zero deaths in America in the last 2 years and less than 1500 total cases counting 2018/2019.
Using statistics from places where the measles death toll is almost literally the least of these people's concerns is at best fake news, and worse intellectually bankrupt.
Similar to the climate crisis issue, you people aren't happy unless there's a made-up, overblown calamity you can point to.
Once more, you assume disease can't spread across borders which was preciesly the point Robin tackled and you're moving goalposts now.
It's like betting against a 3 legged racehorse... outcome is assured.
That's some seriously weak baloney right there my young friend. Also, given your nationality and the mind boggling number of illegal entries from Mexico for the purposes of partaking of our glorious economic system, I find your use of the words "spread across borders" in such a self righteous tone deeply ironic
Also, given your nationality and the mind boggling number of illegal entries from Mexico for the purposes of partaking of our glorious economic system, I find your use of the words "spread across borders" in such a self righteous tone deeply ironic
Ah yes, Gregg shouldn't point out a fact because he is Mexican. Stay classy, Jason.
That's some seriously weak baloney right there my young friend. Also, given your nationality and the mind boggling number of illegal entries from Mexico for the purposes of partaking of our glorious economic system, I find your use of the words "spread across borders" in such a self righteous tone deeply ironic
Wh... what? This is just a silly ad-hominem fallacy but you can keep digging.
It was neither ad hominem nor "un-classy," but it was most definitely an ironic word choice on Gregg's part.
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