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General / Off-Topic Measles
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It's a risk when squirrels are involved.
How unfortunate that of all the things 6xex could have grown up to be, he ended up as the guy who writes unlettered conspiracy rants on the internet.
Lithium, unfortunately, there's a global shortage...
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Needs more capitals and exclamation marks.
100% agree.
"I don't need fire alarms and fire-resistent building materials; fires are far more devastating in third-world countries where neither is common! The actual death rates of fires is very low where I live, so it's best to just risk it!"
Excellent logic. I myself have stopped eating as well, as the risk of starving is so low in Belgium and I ain't so stupid to fall for the evil plot of Big Vegetables to give me cancer and autism with their GMO broccoli!
And because it's 2019 and this is an international forum: /s.
Excellent logic. I myself have stopped eating as well, as the risk of starving is so low in Belgium and I ain't so stupid to fall for the evil plot of Big Vegetables to give me cancer and autism with their GMO broccoli!
And because it's 2019 and this is an international forum: /s.
What's being said is that using third world death estimates (estimates, mind you, NOT solid numbers) to shape policy or perception of the situation in Europe or America is disingenuous. I'd say it was also intellectually bankrupt. A quick search of measles outbreaks and death tolls in America for 2019 has the number of cases as being less than 1000 in the first six months of 2019 and I'm hard pressed to find a report of any death statistics resulting from them. Meanwhile, the same quick search of the common flu in America had death statistics of over 80,000 in 2018.
I don't want to catch either, but acting like it's the same problem in western civ as it is in the Congo is just blatant fear mongering to push an agenda and it doesn't surprise me that it's the same crowd who also uses fear of the world ending to push the climate crisis narrative. The bottom line is that in America (and probably Europe) you have a better chance of dying from complications with the common cold then dying from Measles.
I don't want to catch either, but acting like it's the same problem in western civ as it is in the Congo is just blatant fear mongering to push an agenda and it doesn't surprise me that it's the same crowd who also uses fear of the world ending to push the climate crisis narrative. The bottom line is that in America (and probably Europe) you have a better chance of dying from complications with the common cold then dying from Measles.
The premise of the thread and most of the comments and likes have been co-opting third world estimates to whine about policy in Western civ. If you want to step away from the intellectually bankrupt crowd and get on the right side of the conversation with me, start making an argument for vaccinations in third world countries... instead of seeing my name attached to a comment and just attacking that.I wonder why that is...
Attacking? I merely pointed out the reason why it's so unlikely to die from measels, talk about a thin skin. Third world countries are examples of what happens when vaccines and hygiene are under the floor.
You are also wrong on your premise guessing because some have published statistics of first world countries and other reasons why vaccines are valuable.
I'm all for vaccinations in third world countries, especially Africa, but that doesn't change the fact that our world is too interconnected for that to be useful when it comes to eradicating the measles when it doesn't go hand in hand with suppressing measle outbreaks in the western civilization.
The measles are one of the most infectious disease that exist, without the vaccinations against it, the number of infections would be as high, probably higher, than the numbers the flu produces.
Then it's a good thing that the vast majority of people in western civ are and will continue to be vaccinated against it. And while it may be seriously contagious, it's actually less of a health risk than influenza or the Norovirus by a wide margin, so not seeing the point in creating a false panic by using trumped up statistics like the OP did.
In 2018 there were 371 confirmed measles cases in America. That's hundreds, people, not hundreds of thousands.
Measles resurgence in the United States - Wikipedia
I will tell you what is going to be a problem, though, and it's entirely due to the kinds of people who've endorsed the mentality behind this thread: when antibiotics are no longer effective. That's coming, and it really is truly scary and it's entirely due to overuse by a demographic who think they can entirely needle or pill pop their way to security.
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Yep, caught that one. Too bad my own point sailed so far over yours and Gregg's head that it left a contrailYeah, he is making the exact argument I parodied.
Yep, caught that one. Too bad my own point sailed so far over yours and Gregg's head that it left a contrail
You had a point? lol
Yeah, a version of "if you drive on the shoulder traffic jams are no problem!" plus a mandatory whataboutism.
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