[Video] January update, was this what we ASKED?! & Fleet carrier delay...

[Simplystyc]

I'd just assume we let the professionals handle things. I mean real professionals, not the random internet types armed with video editing tools.

What better people to ask for change, than the people that play the game?

You mention we should let the professionals handle things. How would you describe an Elite: Dangerous Professional?

Are you referring to the Dev's playing their own game and fixing the bugs they find? If that's the case then this game would have died before it reached beta.

The game relies on its community to have open discourse with the devs in order to keep the game running smoothly. Some of those people just happen to make content and have a YouTube channel. Most do not.

 

[CMDR Serra]

If they've fixed all the bugs that they said they would and we now have a stable, mostly bug free game then I'd say that's a successful patch. Something they BADLY needed after the last dumpster-fire.

 

[Anunnkai28]

• Lack of communication across the board which includes: direction of the game, future roadmap, bug fixes and more.
• Game-breaking bugs go unresolved for years at a time, primarily affecting multiplayer, but this is true across all aspects of the game regardless of mode. First thing under primary grievance.

 

[StuartGT]

• Lack of communication across the board which includes: direction of the game, future roadmap, bug fixes and more.
• Game-breaking bugs go unresolved for years at a time, primarily affecting multiplayer, but this is true across all aspects of the game regardless of mode. First thing under primary grievance.

Excellent points raised by the Community Requests letter

 

[Stigbob]

What better people to ask for change, than the people that play the game?

You mention we should let the professionals handle things. How would you describe an Elite: Dangerous Professional?

Are you referring to the Dev's playing their own game and fixing the bugs they find? If that's the case then this game would have died before it reached beta.

The game relies on its community to have open discourse with the devs in order to keep the game running smoothly. Some of those people just happen to make content and have a YouTube channel. Most do not.

I'd be more impressed with the professionalism of the random internet committee who demanded FDEV do exactly what FDEV did if they were owning that and defending FDEV for doing it at their request rather than clutching their pearls and shrieking for the smelling salts.

 

[Anunnkai28]

Excellent points raised by the Community Requests letter

Use the tracker more often and play the game.

 

[Mohrgan]

What better people to ask for change, than the people that play the game?

You mention we should let the professionals handle things. How would you describe an Elite: Dangerous Professional?

Are you referring to the Dev's playing their own game and fixing the bugs they find? If that's the case then this game would have died before it reached beta.

The game relies on its community to have open discourse with the devs in order to keep the game running smoothly. Some of those people just happen to make content and have a YouTube channel. Most do not.

I believe that open discourse is necessary, as you will note my frequent participation on these Forums. What we don;t need is unrealistic demands interfering with the development of this, or any game. That mob-like outburst was destined to wreak havoc on the time line for the game's development. Now, we all have to suffer that together. Just like when FD let us vote on Ship Transfers, disaster.

If we can't learn to keep our hands out of the cookie jar, we're just going to have to live with what biscuit we pull out.

 

[StuartGT]

I'm really surprised they give you guys the time. Use the issue tracker

The bugs are going to happen. Not just in this one game, all games. Post ur issue in the tracker and move on. Don't turn the community against the developer.

I'm sorry that you don't like bugs (logged in the issue tracker) being fixed.

Today's update is great for fixing many bugs that have been reported, irrespective of some players who don't want bugs to be fixed.

 

[Mohrgan]

I'm sorry that you don't like bugs (logged in the issue tracker) being fixed.

Somehow these responses don;t seem connected to reality.

 

[zimms]

[...] Yeah, the reason we have the most boring update for January since, i can't remember when, was that whiny, entitled, caught in a storm of collective hysteria open letter, [...]

What was the last update you'd genuinely call exciting?

 

[CMDR Serra]

Primary Grievances
The following bullet points are a simplified list of current grievances the community has with Frontier Developments and Elite: Dangerous.

• Lack of communication across the board which includes: direction of the game, future roadmap, bug fixes and more.
• Game-breaking bugs go unresolved for years at a time, primarily affecting multiplayer, but this is true across all aspects of the game regardless of mode.
• Gross balance issues in multiple areas that cement the divide between combat-focused players and everyone else.
• No Beta testing for most updates, with only ‘major’ releases seeing any kind of beta period while ‘minor’ releases go straight to live and always contain serious, game-breaking bugs that are immediately apparent during play.

So:
2 out of 4 isn't bad for the first patch after the OL. And I do believe they're trying on the first one as well...

was this what we ASKED?! - well, mostly, yeah.

 

[StuartGT]

Somehow these responses don;t seem connected to reality.

I'm sorry that you don't like bugs (logged in the issue tracker) being fixed.

Today's update is great for fixing many bugs that have been reported, irrespective of some players who don't want bugs to be fixed.

 

[CMDR Fnool]

If we can't learn to keep our hands out of the cookie jar, we're just going to have to live with what biscuit we pull out.

Which this time turned out to be a damp Rich Tea biscuit.

 

[Simplystyc]

• Lack of communication across the board which includes: direction of the game, future roadmap, bug fixes and more.
• Game-breaking bugs go unresolved for years at a time, primarily affecting multiplayer, but this is true across all aspects of the game regardless of mode. First thing under primary grievance.

I personally feel the following explanation illustrates why many people are upset with Frontier Developments in general.

Frontier Releases Game - All is well.
Update 1 - Adds new content, but introduces bugs to game
Player base complains and asks for fix
Frontier Respond by releasing patch (Untested, No BETA)
Fixes some issues, but creates new ones (Stuttering etc)
Playerbase complains
Frontier release Beta to test upcoming update/patch
Looks Promising
The update goes live, fixes more long-standing issues, yet unoptimized and riddled with bugs.
Player Base: Pikachu Face

All the while Mum is the word when it comes to Frontier talking about what they are Fixing and what the update contains. Patch notes don't hit the forums till 5 days before the update. The update is here and it's a mess. People have a right to be fed up and upset.

It's the same old song and dance. And people like myself have reached the end of their rope a long time ago and are freefalling right now, just hoping someone will catch them.

 

[Mrat13]

Can't wait for the video talking about the broken economy thanks to the BGS changes.

 

[Viajero]

Although we have to wait six months, 2020 is the year of reckoning for ED as there is no place left to hide or delay things. I wonder what we will be saying in July?

Depending on who you ask, Elite´s year of reckoning has occurred actually every year since vanilla alpha. But pretty sure this time you are right, got to be this year right? Right?

 

[Rubbernuke]

I believe that open discourse is necessary, as you will note my frequent participation on these Forums. What we don;t need is unrealistic demands interfering with the development of this, or any game. That mob-like outburst was destined to wreak havoc on the time line for the game's development. Now, we all have to suffer that together. Just like when FD let us vote on Ship Transfers, disaster.

If we can't learn to keep our hands out of the cookie jar, we're just going to have to live with what biscuit we pull out.

My 'unrealistic demand' of FD is to support what they make in a timely way. Not make people wait years and never tell them anything, or haphazardly release more updates that they think will work. For example those Powerplay fixes are about four years late, with the UI change about two years late. The former should have been in 1.4.

 

[Rubbernuke]

Depending on who you ask, Elite´s year of reckoning has occurred actually every year since vanilla alpha. But pretty sure this time you are right, got to be this year right? Right?

Well, its the year of reckoning for me. I've been patient and said 'next update' over and over but this time its got to be transformative.

 

[Agony_Aunt]

I suppose words can mean what ever you want them to, irrespective of what they actually say.

To be honest, that was my takeaway from the open letter as well. Stop developing new stuff, fix the existing stuff.

Maybe that wasn't the intended meaning, but its how it was interpreted by some.

Personally i don't think FD reintroduced betas and focused on bugs because you asked. I just think the open letter gave them the perfect excuse to announce the delay in new content. They might have been wondering how to do it, and the open letter was a gift horse to FD!

 

[Ezren]

Yeah, this is what you asked for, amidst greedily scrambling to get into the center of the spotlight with clickbait and outrage. Manufactured drama.

I hope people don't click on these videos hoping to learn anything.