Watching the current livestream...

[Deleted member 182079]

By what you explained, I don't feel sorry for them, not a bit. For any community manager it is imperative to know the game inside-out - yet none of them did. The highly acclaimed 'lt's have a bobblehead of him' Ed was not much better either.

Just imagine if they invited Michael Brookes to discuss the lore, or ship designers to discuss the identity of manufactures, their history. So much content to talk about, yet they try to show off lame gameplay on the fly... so sad...

While it is a fair point, I don't think their skill/knowledge levels of the game are necessarily the deciding factor - I think they're being told what the boundaries are within they can operate by the "higher ups", and they have to make do with that - although as others have suggested, given there's really not much exciting new content to play with, they could run more competitions and stuff like that, to actually engage with the community (which is their job).

Also, they could use their cluelessness to an advantage - do something crazy/unusual (maybe based on community feedback/suggestions) in the game and see how they stumble through it.

"Restarting a CMDR save" isn't exciting stuff to watch at all, we've all gone through the beginning stage of the game already at least once, unless they were simply keen to "show off" the new user experience, of which IMO there isn't all that much meat on the bone so quite difficult to fill an hour with and make it entertaining all the same.

 

[Navigare Necesse Est]

.... You could do it in a Sidewinder, ...

If you believe that would be good material for a community stream I have to disappoint you. The community does like light entertainment, not hardcore masochist stuff.

 

[zimms]

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The Lore has changed a lot, some of us want 1st hand accounts of what the lore actually is please. As advertised is all.

Good Luck!

Just to avoid some disappointment: This is not a Discovery Scanner stream where developers provide extra insight. It's a Stargazing Tours episode so I guess they will fly to various tourist beacons and listen to the audio broadcasts.

 

[Mrat13]

If you believe that would be good material for a community stream I have to disappoint you. The community does like light entertainment, not hardcore masochist stuff.

Masochist? It just requires more jumps....

Plus, I did mention the Hauler....

 

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Masochist? It just requires more jumps....

Plus, I did mention the Hauler....

That's what I mean. The hauler isn't really a remedy when all that happens is pressing "j", occasional fueling, and ever same loading screen. That's not entertaining.

 

[Mrat13]

That's what I mean. The hauler isn't really a remedy when all that happens is pressing "j", occasional fueling, and ever same loading screen. That's not entertaining.

So how do you make a trip to Colonia entertaining?

 

[Lightspeed]

So how do you make a trip to Colonia entertaining?

Do it in Open and invite "others" to join you?

 

[Mrat13]

Do it in Open and invite "others" to join you?

So the ship doesn't matter, like I said.

 

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So how do you make a trip to Colonia entertaining?

You don't. You pick entertaining gameplay. Or talk about work on future content. People love trying to spy out hints of what's to come. Or Pepe's love letter to Community Manager stuck at Paige's screen.

 

[Mrat13]

You don't. You pick entertaining gameplay. Or talk about work on future content. People love trying to spy out hints of what's to come. Or Pepe's love letter to Community Manager stuck at Paige's screen.

So there is nothing inherently wrong with doing the trip in a Sidewinder or Hauler.

 

[Navigare Necesse Est]

So there is nothing inherently wrong with doing the trip in a Sidewinder or Hauler.

That's not what this thread is about. It's about interesting community interaction.

 

[Mrat13]

That's not what this thread is about. It's about interesting community interaction.

Someone mentioned why they were flying a Sidewinder due to a reset account, with the challenge to get to Colonia. But even in a Sidewinder, getting to Colonia isn't difficult, so I don't see the 'challenge' part.

 

[Deleted member 182079]

Someone mentioned why they were flying a Sidewinder due to a reset account, with the challenge to get to Colonia. But even in a Sidewinder, getting to Colonia isn't difficult, so I don't see the 'challenge' part.

No it's not difficult, just boring and tedious. I went to VY Canis Majoris in a Sidewinder, it was memorable and being there in a Sidey was cool, but getting there seriously tested my patience. Watching someone else doing it? I'd just skip forward.

 

[askavir]

What's even the point of doing a livestream when they got nothing to say?..

 

[Riverside]

What's even the point of doing a livestream when they got nothing to say?..

To sell the game It's Marketing.

 

[Valorin]

I feel a bit sorry for Paige and Stephen (who ftr seem lovely people). They're not in a position to share any more detail about future content, as a result get flak from rather salty comments they have to read but can only ignore... amongst some questions that they can't possibly answer such as "why is random suggestion/feature not implemented and when will it be", which they can't really respond to, all the while just a few handful of viewers actually bother to tune in (81 at time of writing).

On top of that they're coming across like it's the first time they play the game (autodocking a Sidey etc.) so it's not exactly riveting content all by itself either. Just getting the impression they don't really want to be there but have to make a brave face as it's their job, trying to talk about random stuff just to say anything at all.

Hope FD give them a bit more to 'play' with soonish(tm)...

Yeah... Those live streams are no content reveals, but just community managers playing the game for some fun and staying in touch with the community.
I really don't get those people who show up on a stream and bombard them with questions like that though they know perfectly well, that they won't get an answer and just disrupt the whole thing... "So, we're here to play a bit and do some chitchat about this and that." - "WHEN WILL FLEET CARRIERS BE THERE! TELL MEEEE!"

While I think it is pretty stupid and immature behavior, I also don't get why Frontier isn't mitigating that in some way. Like, setting up live streams where they actually address these things, even if they can't answer the questions. More information would be even better I guess, but that's theirs to decide. But it would make sense to share some bits about the internal processes and talk about stuff, if only to give a target for those questions.

 

[Rat Catcher]

Someone mentioned why they were flying a Sidewinder due to a reset account, with the challenge to get to Colonia. But even in a Sidewinder, getting to Colonia isn't difficult, so I don't see the 'challenge' part.

Do it with a 1E fuel scoop and no AFMU...

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[askavir]

To sell the game It's Marketing.

And the best Marketing idea was to make a livestream showing a Sidewinder doing boring bits of gameplay?...

Yeah... Those live streams are no content reveals, but just community managers playing the game for some fun and staying in touch with the community.
I really don't get those people who show up on a stream and bombard them with questions like that though they know perfectly well, that they won't get an answer and just disrupt the whole thing... "So, we're here to play a bit and do some chitchat about this and that." - "WHEN WILL FLEET CARRIERS BE THERE! TELL MEEEE!"

While I think it is pretty stupid and immature behavior, I also don't get why Frontier isn't mitigating that in some way. Like, setting up live streams where they actually address these things, even if they can't answer the questions. More information would be even better I guess, but that's theirs to decide. But it would make sense to share some bits about the internal processes and talk about stuff, if only to give a target for those questions.

I agree completely that is quite uncool to disrupt the stream, the hosts are doing their jobs and being nice chaps.

But...

When you do a livestream in an ongoing 2 years no-news hiatus just to showing boring bits of gameplay, what could you really expect?

 

[Mrat13]

Do it with a 1E fuel scoop and no AFMU...

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34 ly jump range? Where's the challenge? Actually, what's the lowest jump range you can have, and still get to Colonia?

 

[Deleted member 182079]

Yeah... Those live streams are no content reveals, but just community managers playing the game for some fun and staying in touch with the community.
I really don't get those people who show up on a stream and bombard them with questions like that though they know perfectly well, that they won't get an answer and just disrupt the whole thing... "So, we're here to play a bit and do some chitchat about this and that." - "WHEN WILL FLEET CARRIERS BE THERE! TELL MEEEE!"

While I think it is pretty stupid and immature behavior, I also don't get why Frontier isn't mitigating that in some way. Like, setting up live streams where they actually address these things, even if they can't answer the questions. More information would be even better I guess, but that's theirs to decide. But it would make sense to share some bits about the internal processes and talk about stuff, if only to give a target for those questions.

Yeah - it's clear what the nature/point of these streams are, but people will always ask regardless (free country innit) especially if you facilitate it through livechat.

The other issue is the way they do make use (or rather, they don't) of these opportunities to engage with the community. It's all very one-sided and therefore, due to lack of anything new, or at least exciting gameplay on display, a bit dull to watch. There's been quite a few very good suggestions in this thread about what they could do, but for some reason they don't - so it's difficult to see what FD actually try to achieve with these streams as it mostly just generates salt or perhaps worse, indifference.

As for FD giving us some sprinkles of news on the forthcoming content - I get they don't want to over promise but we don't even know on a very high level what the content will be about (New Era, not FC as that's just delayed and was already introduced previously).

I find that utterly crazy from a marketing viewpoint, but then I'm not a marketing guy so what do I know. AFAIK all the discussions about space legs and base building is based on rumours and IMO all the theorycrafting and wishful thinking as a result of a complete lack of information is more counterproductive than FDev under-delivering in any shape or form.