Jettisoned the entire lot like the big girls blouse I am
Look at you in your big flashy ship, too big for a little small time crime.
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Look at you in your big flashy ship, too big for a little small time crime.
Still out at Taygeta.
Changed from the Krait to the Asp Scout. Because: Fun!
Really, really, don't want to get hit by the Thargon swarm though.
It's very good at killing scouts though.
Might need to fit the Shutdown Field Neutraliser thingy.
Guardian Shard Turrets, they're not rubbish, they're very good for the Scouts if used correctly.
Changed from the Krait to the Asp Scout. Because: Fun!
Really, really, don't want to get hit by the Thargon swarm though.
It's very good at killing scouts though.
Might need to fit the Shutdown Field Neutraliser thingy.
Guardian Shard Turrets, they're not rubbish, they're very good for the Scouts if used correctly.
Went to a threat 3 USS and found it chock-full canisters, one of which was painite. I picked it all up like the greedy bar steward I am then remembered it would all be stolen property.
I was in my 'Vette so finding a black market at an outpost wasn't going to help.
I've never tried smuggling goods before and I understand silent running could work. However, I understand the ship gets pretty toasty doing that and I had no heatsinks to compensate.
So what did I do?
Jettisoned the entire lot like the big girls blouse I am
I smuggled some cargo in my vette. The trick is to fly into the slot at full speed with all pips to engines. Then they don't have time to scan you.
Out here in Colonia, I've started building an exploration Conda, called "Nellie Bly" (look her up):
(Who said anything about phallic?)
I've seen to run into a problem though. The best FSD I can find anywhere where I can land the Conda, is 6B. Both Inara and EDDB say that I can get a 6A at Colonia Orbital, which is just what I need, but there is only medium landing pads available there. No medium ship I know of can carry a class 6 FSD. Is this some sort of riddle?
Also, does anyone know why I can't use alt+F7 to capture screenshots in open? Is it some weird privacy thing?
(Who said anything about phallic?)
I've seen to run into a problem though. The best FSD I can find anywhere where I can land the Conda, is 6B. Both Inara and EDDB say that I can get a 6A at Colonia Orbital, which is just what I need, but there is only medium landing pads available there. No medium ship I know of can carry a class 6 FSD. Is this some sort of riddle?
Also, does anyone know why I can't use alt+F7 to capture screenshots in open? Is it some weird privacy thing?
I agree. Some hurdles in the game seem to be there to create what Yamiks sarcastically calls "NArraTIve". I like him a lot, but right there I don't completely agree. I think the game tells a story, the more you learn about the galaxy, and mostly I think Fdev has done exceptionally well on that part. Right now, when in VR, I'm this Martian Ambassadeur slash retired rich miner, fumbling around out here, trying to hook up with engineers to help me with the stuff and thingies that I can't fix myself, wondering where to get materials, when I soon run out.
I also think planning the trip, by going on the RL internet, and read some, makes perfect sense. I even accept that I have to fly around and get the modules I need (Jameson is handy). But if Fdev wanted us to experience a narrative like that, why is it possible to get all the market info etc. via 3rd party web pages and apps? I guess we all use Inara and EDDB, so why not include it in the game? Also let me see what mats I need at the engineer, without using Excel.
Especially when you use VR, it's "annoying" to have to take off the HMD to look at a screen, switching to mouse and keyboard, find whatever, mount the gear again, recenter FOV, find that you didn't activate the ED window after using the browser, remove HMD, find mouse and cursor, remount HMD, only to realize that you forgot the name of the system and didn't press ctrl+C in the heat of the battle.
If you mean alt+F10 (which is the unchangeable FD trigger) for high res screenshots: because the high res screenshots will make your ship invisible/invulbnerable/indefendable (take your pick) for a few seconds, possibly exploitable.
If you mean alt+F7, because that's the combination one of your tools/graphic card driver uses: no idea.
Thanks. I meant the screenshot, but I hadn't looked at the actual keys.
Well, wants and needs aside, I bought the 'Conda. For the most part outfitting it has been relatively painless if not cheap. The hardest things to find? an 8A power plant, a 4A gimballed Pulse Laser, and a 5D life support. I started looking in the Borr system where I bought the ship. Nope...So I hopped on INARA to check the recent Mod Locations. Hey! I There are all three at Lazutkin Terminal in LHS 20...Oh...medium platform...no wonder they are there, you can't land a large ship.
Okay, next...Grover Terminal in Borr! Fly there...land...Nope...Not here. Sigh...Okay, where next...
I fly to another system, land, and no, sorry, nothing here that matches what it says was here just a couple of hours ago. This is frustrating to say the least...
I click back on the INARA Galaxy Overview page and see, "Shinrarta Dezhra"...Hmmm, why does that sound familiar. OH! JAMESON MEMORIAL! They have everything! And still have a 10% discount! WOOT!!
Head to Jameson and get my parts...head out to the High Res that is about 5k ls away, and test out my new Garbage Truck! LOL...yes, a 300+ Million Credit Garbage Truck! Sit and wait for the Sec Boys to start shooting someone, waddle over (even with 7A thrusters, it does accelerate like a real garbage truck...I know I drove one for 5 years), pull up my 2 pulse laser, 6 multi-cannon weapons package, and start destroying the bad guy.
Once he pops, I check for any canisters that are not on my exclude list (important with lots of Sec Boys around), launch a collector, open the hatch and relax as the mats come to me. When all is done, I close the hatch and leave the collector sitting outside waiting for the next bunch of mats.
Yeah, I could have done it with my FDL, but it would mean loosing two slots worth of protection for a cargo hold and collector controller.
Once I get my mats full and sorted up or down as needed, I can then start doing serious Engineering. But until then...this is fun!
Okay, next...Grover Terminal in Borr! Fly there...land...Nope...Not here. Sigh...Okay, where next...
I fly to another system, land, and no, sorry, nothing here that matches what it says was here just a couple of hours ago. This is frustrating to say the least...
I click back on the INARA Galaxy Overview page and see, "Shinrarta Dezhra"...Hmmm, why does that sound familiar. OH! JAMESON MEMORIAL! They have everything! And still have a 10% discount! WOOT!!
Head to Jameson and get my parts...head out to the High Res that is about 5k ls away, and test out my new Garbage Truck! LOL...yes, a 300+ Million Credit Garbage Truck! Sit and wait for the Sec Boys to start shooting someone, waddle over (even with 7A thrusters, it does accelerate like a real garbage truck...I know I drove one for 5 years), pull up my 2 pulse laser, 6 multi-cannon weapons package, and start destroying the bad guy.
Once he pops, I check for any canisters that are not on my exclude list (important with lots of Sec Boys around), launch a collector, open the hatch and relax as the mats come to me. When all is done, I close the hatch and leave the collector sitting outside waiting for the next bunch of mats.
Yeah, I could have done it with my FDL, but it would mean loosing two slots worth of protection for a cargo hold and collector controller.
Once I get my mats full and sorted up or down as needed, I can then start doing serious Engineering. But until then...this is fun!
I enjoyed that RES for a while but I'd hit the cops too often. There's a hazres 3.5kls from Jameson that feels better to me. Mind you, I tend to not take on wings on my own unless they are just Eagles or similar.
You are not the first to comment on this. There is in fact no place to get a 6A in Colonia. The Colonial Orbital records are false, you can't really buy them there because, as you said, it only has medium pads
Thanks. That was slowly dawning on me too.You are not the first to comment on this. There is in fact no place to get a 6A in Colonia. The Colonial Orbital records are false, you can't really buy them there because, as you said, it only has medium pads
I'm having one (fully engineered one) shipped out here right now. Takes 61 hours, which considering the distance, and how long it took me to get here, isn't that bad. The price of the shipping is 132% of the cost of the module, which is a lot of credits, but then again, it wasn't easy getting here. I guess UPS would charge me something similar. I'm not gonna ship the Corvette out here though. Yikes!
Got all the other modules I needed, so until the FSD arrives, I'll gather mats. I added some guns and lasers to the Python I bought, so it's a RES capable mining ship. I already unlocked the engineer I need, so now it's just kicking back and enjoying out here in the suburbs. As I wrote earlier, I'm constantly surprised at the way the narrative evolves around my character. Being out here, is kind of being in the countryside having grown up in a city. I kind of like it out here. It's simple in a nice way. Expensive though. Think I've spent roughly a billion CR on new toys, but it's actually nice to be able to use some of all the value I created while mining. Not slip mining
That came later, and I mostly used it for learning how to use thrusters, stick and yaw to orbit precisely, something that has come in handy during combat, since I don't (can't?) use FA Off. A small ship like the Eagle, handles so well, and is so agile that I have no problem pointing my nose were I want it, after having had to do the same against a rotating rock with rather small target areas and fixed slow misiles. Speaking of narrative, it's quite rewarding to observe how you learn, and especially for a nerd like me (not exceptionally sporty) to see how you can teach yourself muscle memory. I might have to retry that blues harp IRL some day.
I can also (maybe I already have) recommend the Compromised Nav Beacon at LTT 4487, being one jump from Jameson, as variation when a RES gets trivial. It's roughly same level as a Haz Res, and the backdrop is pretty.
I've been trying out low intensity combat zones for the last couple of days. It has revealed some weaknesses with my Corvette build where my choice of using all gimballed weapons doesn't work so well on ships using chaff. Also smaller ships can use their speed to get out of range of some of my weapons. But so far I have been on the winning side of both of the battles I have fought in.
Just in case:
If you untarget the ship you are in battle with, your gimballed weapons act like fixed weapons, and this way you can continue hitting them despite chaff flying!
With the average age of participants in this lovely thread at around octogenarian stage I do not hold much hope for an answer to this question, so don't even bother to continue reading with them watering eyes of yours.
You may however refer this question to your great grandchild as the chances of being familiar with this issue increase exponentially.
What I am puzzled about is this:
1. Solo: Now..... no, no, NO!
I am not puzzled about this, I told you, don't even bother reading, now put your hearing aid in again and eat your porridge.
2. Open, 3. Private, 4. Arena
Good Lord, you still here? You're quite the stalker Grandpa aren't you?
Ok then, now that you're still here and old enough to remember Methusalem's foot size, and definately people born 1955 like Bill "do you ally want to close this window' Gates, perhaps you know this.
Why on earth do all the other game modes, except Solo, require me to subscribe to the Gates sect and pay for it on the xbox? Is the Braben crew so cash strapped that they do not have the means to setup their own server farm for their lovers of virtual space ships and animals extinct and alive?
Is that not the same on PC? No subscription required there or same?
What do you mean ageist?
Is is an elongated embayment of the Mediterranean Sea calle Aegean where I want to setup my last bed, not aegist....
What do you mean grumpy old fart.... oh well, nevermind.... grmmble, moan...
You may however refer this question to your great grandchild as the chances of being familiar with this issue increase exponentially.
What I am puzzled about is this:
1. Solo: Now..... no, no, NO!
I am not puzzled about this, I told you, don't even bother reading, now put your hearing aid in again and eat your porridge.
2. Open, 3. Private, 4. Arena
Good Lord, you still here? You're quite the stalker Grandpa aren't you?
Ok then, now that you're still here and old enough to remember Methusalem's foot size, and definately people born 1955 like Bill "do you ally want to close this window' Gates, perhaps you know this.
Why on earth do all the other game modes, except Solo, require me to subscribe to the Gates sect and pay for it on the xbox? Is the Braben crew so cash strapped that they do not have the means to setup their own server farm for their lovers of virtual space ships and animals extinct and alive?
Is that not the same on PC? No subscription required there or same?
What do you mean ageist?
Is is an elongated embayment of the Mediterranean Sea calle Aegean where I want to setup my last bed, not aegist....
What do you mean grumpy old fart.... oh well, nevermind.... grmmble, moan...
Because that's how consoles (not just the XBox, PS4 is the same) work. Or rather, how their business model works. Hand out the hardware for free (well, at minimal profit), then make the money with software and services. And being able to play multi user games is just such a service.
FD doesn't see any of that money. The Braben crew is running their own server farm (or rather, is paying Amazon to run it), but that one is only accessible to the elite.
P.S. and no, you don't have to pay a monthly subscription on PC to run multiplayer.
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FD doesn't see any of that money. The Braben crew is running their own server farm (or rather, is paying Amazon to run it), but that one is only accessible to the elite.
P.S. and no, you don't have to pay a monthly subscription on PC to run multiplayer.
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All rather nicely put. Since the graphics card in a PC can set you back the cost of a console, to a greater of lesser extent. We really need to see all the excess cost of the PC as the price of freeing ourselves from the yoke of subscription.
I can internally relax a little bit now, poorer upfront as I am.
It is a lovely thread.
Thanks.
Rather confusing. I mean obviously the code for Xbox is different from that for PC as you can see via the upgrade package size every time.
All multiplayers, regardless console or PC use the same cluster of servers, but the server that are used by multiplayer are not owned and maintained by the Gates sect?
What does the above " only accessible to the elite"mean? I assume what you mean is that their servers are for development purposes only, would that be right?
So, Gates Sect books x amount of servers from Bezos Mafia for their software and multiplayer functions, and console players pay that service, and PC's can use it for free?
This can't be right, because in the grand scheme, there are surely more PC's out there than consoles, are there not?
Sorry, as I said, quite confusing to get my head around that stuff, and btw. for free the consoles are not, and considering that the hardware is out of date, in no time, and PC always have the edge, the only real advantage I can see is that you have nothing to do with maintaining that .... chokes.... Windows....
It's complicated.
There are supposedly multiple server structures. Some of them run the galaxy background - the BGS, who sold what exploration data, how much are which items worth where. Ultimately, the root servers for that data are shared between platforms and available in all modes.
Then there are the multiplayer servers - which are responsible for setting up instances. And those, for whatever reason, don't support sharing between platforms.
So, there would be a (set of) multiplayer server(s) for XBox, one for PS4 and one for PC. You have to pay for using those servers through a subscription on XBox/PS4, while the cost for the PC is ccovered by FD.
Yes - and the condsole code has to go through an additional verification layer (at Microsoft/Sony). As witnessed in the last patch - the PC patch was out immediately, while the console patch was delayed for a few days for the validation process. Formerly, FD have held back the PC patches until the console patches had been validated.
Yes and no. The galaxy root servers are the same - the multiplayer/instance handling servers not. There may not necessarily be technical reasons for that, see my previous post about the financial reasons.
But you're partially right - most other multiplayer games will charge a monthly subscription fee on PC. That business model just doesn't go well with Sir Braben.
And PC hardware ages, too. My CPU is now more than 5 years old, and pretty dated - and I can't upgrade it without going for a new motherboard, too, which in turn would mandate a few more components to be swapped out...
There are supposedly multiple server structures. Some of them run the galaxy background - the BGS, who sold what exploration data, how much are which items worth where. Ultimately, the root servers for that data are shared between platforms and available in all modes.
Then there are the multiplayer servers - which are responsible for setting up instances. And those, for whatever reason, don't support sharing between platforms.
So, there would be a (set of) multiplayer server(s) for XBox, one for PS4 and one for PC. You have to pay for using those servers through a subscription on XBox/PS4, while the cost for the PC is ccovered by FD.
Yes - and the condsole code has to go through an additional verification layer (at Microsoft/Sony). As witnessed in the last patch - the PC patch was out immediately, while the console patch was delayed for a few days for the validation process. Formerly, FD have held back the PC patches until the console patches had been validated.
Yes and no. The galaxy root servers are the same - the multiplayer/instance handling servers not. There may not necessarily be technical reasons for that, see my previous post about the financial reasons.
Wrong track entirely, I'm afraid - a quip on the old "war" between consoles and PC, where the PC side sees the PCs as "elite" (or "PC master race"), and the console side as "peasants". Some people tend to take that even seriously - my apologies if I offended any console player.
Essentially - although there are multiple streams in the Gates Sect, and the core disciples (XBox) are unlikely to sully their chips by connecting to Bezos' servers when there's a perfect alternative available on their side of the fence.
Not neccessarily - there are rather a lot consoles out there, as gaming PCs tend to be somewhat on the expensive side. And the console players cheerfully have put the ring through their noses themselves, consenting to be locked in their own universe.
But you're partially right - most other multiplayer games will charge a monthly subscription fee on PC. That business model just doesn't go well with Sir Braben.
Depends how you calculate it. Given their performance at the time of release, consoles are dirt cheap. Setting up a similarly spec'd PC would cost you multiple that amount. Windows maintenance is indeed a dark chapter.
And PC hardware ages, too. My CPU is now more than 5 years old, and pretty dated - and I can't upgrade it without going for a new motherboard, too, which in turn would mandate a few more components to be swapped out...