It used to trip the windows firewall and crash into an endless loading loop while starting the game.. But the launcher itself kinda worked before. The disappearance trick is new...Yes indeed - but have a good look at the port calls, and giggle
Star Citizen Discussion Thread v11
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What the hell do these FUD spreading nutters know? Its not even their real names- are they hiding something?
Sorry, could not resist it
We're in the times where personal data are the most valuable currency. Of course I don't think CIG are intentionally malicious - Hanlon's razor and al - but I can't unsee their amateurish way of doing as potential Trojan horse and security breaches many evil intentioned must be avidly closely looking to exploit
Welcome James Corey to the new reality where legit criticism is now "hate". The SC community will teach you that staying "neutral" in this topic is next to impossible.
Is Star Citizen really the first game to gather a "cult-like" following?
I d say nope. Die-hard fans and ultimate fanboys have alway been around. Taking the game too serious, losing themselves in the game to escape reality and also getting into online fights over their chosen games. But Star Citizen is the first video game that managed to extract hundreds of millions of dollars from its fanbase, collect and gather whales like other games do regular players and abused and conditioned most of their fanbase to a degree that allows them to keep sucking that moolah. The numbers are bigger but the mechanics at play are actually pretty old and not groundbreaking at all. And articles "offending" a fans personal opinion also has been around for ages. Only in times before social media the reactions were restricted to letters or word-of-mouth defense so nobody really noticed them. Nowadays you make a click on your keyboard and your post goes viral reaching millions of people. Anybody can create a video easy as pie. Theres no qualification or quality required.
Star Citizen itself is a pretty unimpressive project to be honest. It doesnt matter if it succeeds or fails in the end. Most of the world will be unaffected and even if you reduce the world to the gaming community EVEN THEN most of the world will remain unaffected....Sci-fi games are "that" niche. I guess its frustrating to me personally to see abuse and deceit pay off on a grand scale publicly and openly but at least I am not affected financially so I couldnt care less about SC....I got no horse in the race. Star Citizen also never has done anything to "offend" me directly. Its a project that doesnt advance and will most likely crash and burn. Not too surprising as there are a lot of projects like that. The funding involved, waved like a strong argument FOR the project is actually only helping to raise suspicion and invites people to take a sceptical look because this little return value for that much investment simply REEKS of abuse and malpractice. Then you notice the TOS history and learn about all the shell companies and whatever you learn only confirms your first impression. There are a lot of little facts that are worrying and alarming but somehow the fanbase in the project manages to blend all of those out or dismiss anything if they dont simply ignore it and just bath in the vision or end result. Anybody who dares to remind them that the project is a long way off or nowhere close to what they think it is (based on a rational evaluation made from a mental distance) is attacked. So of course the people discussing Star Citizen have no "middle ground". They are not allowed to have a middle ground because anything else then "pro" is immediately "hate".
But again....all thats not SCs doing. Its the doing of its fanatical community part allowed to run wild/amok and do/type/voice whatever they want. Take a look anywhere and you see self-declared fans speaking FOR CIG, announcing and explaining things that are nowhere near reality and that not even CIG confirms....or denies. Its that "denying" part really where CIG misses to distance itself from the fanatics within its community that only manages to identify Star Citizen as a cult or toxic. Because that is the part that is most likely to rub ellbows with people who never heard about it before.
Star Citizen/CIG cannot defend itself based on its product. Therefore it relies on their most vocal fans to defend it for them.
And that is also the part that offends me and draws me into a conflict that I didnt choose. I go through life judging things all the time. A single visit to the supermarket sees my mind going over the aisles like
- looks like crap
- ah I dont know
- this one is bad
- pure scam
And I m allowed to have these thoughts and opinions/views without justifying them before the affiliated companies. Everybody does it so I am pretty much the norm in this. Me having an immediate opinion about Star Citizen based on a first glance or just a handful of information without being an "expert" in any of the related fields is pretty normal and not outrageous at all IMO. I also dont go around and initiate conflict over Star Citizen and havent started out like that. Most people who are not discussing the topic havent. I noticed Star Citizen in 2012 and took a closer look. Other people only now become aware of it and most comment on it from a newbies perspective. The journey starts HERE when positive reactions are embraced and negative reactions are not only dismissed but attacked. It creates a log of animostity and hostility that marks someones experience with Star Citizen.
Most stay clear of it to avoid the conflict but enough refuse to "turn away and ignore it" and face the challenge directed at them. What challenge?
- lol what do YOU know?
- you obviously have no experience whatsoever
- are you stupid?
- ah, a typical hater
All of these are attacks, challenges and have a high probability to intensify a debate. You wonder what the posters intention is in this regard. Because if they wanted the criticism or negativity to go away then any of these replies is arguable the WORST way to go about it. CIG understands this and thats exactly why they are so low-profile themselves. Running under the radar and cursing all the cult-like fanatics paying their bills who create this wake of chaos and conflict turning the publics eye to its shotcomings making it the laughingstock. And all that only ENHANCES the fanboys behavior.
By now SCs toxicity is well established and a fact. Not everybody is toxic but the community as a whole is based on the reliability of conflict errupting whenever Star Citizen is the topic. And there are enough examples of that toxicity at work.
You cant argue with "stupid" is a saying that is pretty true. Even if you are going to crush your opponent or "win" the argument it requires effort and time on your part which might make you the "loser" in the end any way you turn it. Version 11 of this thread is a place I visit for entertainment purposes mostly these days. But it was a treasured site that allowed to exchange opinions and learn about stuff when I first joined. And by now all we do is passing the time waiting for CIG to finally come to terms with their project. All the overhyped announcements like "90 days tops..." or "SC IS A SCAM" join the queue of "SC already better then released AAA games" and similar ridiculous claims. None of them matter, none of em can be proven or have come to fruition. Personally I cannot see any significant changes within the project anymore, something I would expect from an alpha to be honest and even more so when you consider the monthly burn rate of their funding. SCs current development and logs read like projects years after release when older games are in maintanance mode and add tiny little somethings to keep the community busy. Events, cosmetic enhancements and the like. So where exactly is all that money going?
Has Star Citizen somehow "released in secret" and we all missed it? Even tho we take more of a close look then the rest of the world?
Food for thought ^^
I bet that all this recent the Expanse-Star Citizen talks 
will give our"mastermind-wizard"Chris some new,fresh,exclusive and never been seen before ideas......
Ahh look Ship like Rocinante from The Exapanse for ONLY 675.00$!!!AND IT COMES WITH THE LTI if you buy it until 🗓!!!
will give our"mastermind-wizard"Chris some new,fresh,exclusive and never been seen before ideas......Ahh look Ship like Rocinante from The Exapanse for ONLY 675.00$!!!AND IT COMES WITH THE LTI if you buy it until 🗓!!!
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Just for clarification as I m not susbscribed to any of CIGs propaganda feeds or follow any of the streamers who religiously blow every tiny little thing in SCs development out of proportion......has CIG officialled adressed the recent roadmap uproar so far? Did the mastermind Chris Robert himself deemed the communities concerns in this regard worth his time? Anybody got a link to anything official?
Exactly this. Bad management generally filters down. And sensible employees don't hang around. What you get left with is the dross.
I bet that all this recent the Expanse-Star Citizen talks
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Ahh look Ship like Rocinante from The Exapanse for ONLY 675.00$!!!AND IT COMES WITH THE LTI if you buy it until 🗓!!!
Look that did not take long https://robertsspaceindustries.com/...rum/3/thread/the-expanse-beltalowda-listen-up
that basically sounds like
"me and a lot of other gullibles have been taken for a ride and taken advantage of. We like it but alas, CIG has become a bit lazy in taking our money and we dont give it for free. At least give us more dreams and hopes. Are there any other scammers lurking that can rip us off better Here is a list of what to promise."
to me
I nailed again...Jesus that's to many coincidences lately first that joke from back to the future and now this....maybe just maybe I am a Son of the God....a prophet that walk on this Earth and occasionally on water which make me 100% qualified to apply for job at CIG???
Did you think about making a kickstarter out of it? Who knows? Maybe it ll hit off really well and you can keep going on that? ^^ Just dont forget the people who suggested the move (hint hint)
@MTBFritz Excellent Idea and I am totally counting on you with all of yours precise explanations and wall of texts with fresh ideas and deep thoughts you going to be my new Tony Zurovec!!!Did you think about making a kickstarter out of it? Who knows? Maybe it ll hit off really well and you can keep going on that? ^^ Just dont forget the people who suggested the move (hint hint)
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I believe they are largely ignoring the criticism and pretending everything is ok.
haha
Well, yes, when you have to imagine there is a game, i suppose your imagination will have to evolve.
I can't even tell what's serious and not any more
If anyone remembers the I-War Edge of Chaos game, that had space flight model nailed !
“This incredible visual experience”
I would have gone for: “This compelling box wielding experience” personally, but to each their own.
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