General / Off-Topic Interesting Times.

[Ralph Vargr]

My new gig is with a very large pharma company. They bought out Monsanto.

We're on lockdown until Monday, nearly five thousand of us. Told to go home this morning. Don't know if it's paid time or not.

Good luck with that stock market.

 

[Chris Simon]

My new gig is with a very large pharma company. They bought out Monsanto.

We're on lockdown until Monday, nearly five thousand of us. Told to go home this morning. Don't know if it's paid time or not.

Good luck with that stock market.

Yeah, when comes to Western countries, I guess the CV will be more deadly to the economy than to the people.
Interesting times indeed.
At least we're going to know for certain if the economy really was the giant on wooden legs.

 

[jasonbarron]

There's no doubt that the economy (economies) are "giant's on wooden legs." What we're waiting to see is which of them will be able to efficiently get back on their feet.

 

[Ralph Vargr]

Yeah, when comes to Western countries, I guess the CV will be more deadly to the economy than to the people.
Interesting times indeed.
At least we're going to know for certain if the economy really was the giant on wooden legs.

Wooden? More like a certain kind of mud.

I'm just gobsmacked that this wasn't thought of by the whippersnappers, and their spinning Excel pivot tables.

 

[metatheurgist]

It's funny how living week by week suddenly sucks when a real life event breaks the precious economic cycles.

 

[Patrick_68000]

I am always delighted when the real life comes to sanction the people who are in denial concerning the degradation of the environment, and erect as universal truth, the overconsumption, the overproduction, and the overpollution.

 

[Vasco Sapien]

I wonder if there is a case for China (CCP) to pay reparations to the world for all the life lost and the trillions of Dollars down the toilet due to this now Pandemic.
Its not like China hasnt been warned before with previous outbreaks and they promised to clean house with regard to the illegal meat markets but never did.

This was avoidable, its been avoidable before... but it keeps happening.

 

[Patrick_68000]

I wonder if there is a case for China (CCP) to pay reparations to the world for all the life lost and the trillions of Dollars down the toilet due to this now Pandemic.
Its not like China hasnt been warned before with previous outbreaks and they promised to clean house with regard to the illegal meat markets but never did.

This was avoidable, its been avoidable before... but it keeps happening.

Of course they have enough money.

And we have to relocate production back home and stop giving them our discoveries, our intelligence, as we do to obtain the markets from them.

 

[Vasco Sapien]

Of course they have enough money.

And we have to relocate production back home and stop giving them our discoveries, our intelligence, as we do to obtain markets from them.

Well i just figure, that despite what the WHO say about Chinese bravado in handling the outbreak, we still have a pandemic, people are dying and entire nations are in lockdown.
If China had clamped down on the domestic trade practices which seem to always be the root of these outbreaks this pandemic could have been avoided.

Its not what they did...(not that it made a difference) its what the didnt do and now the world is paying for it. and in my opinion China should pay for it.

 

[Silure]

overpollution

I read that as overpopulation.

 

[Chris Simon]

I read that as overpopulation.

Well, they do go hand in hand when comes to humans.

 

[Ralph Vargr]

Ah, my original post didn't reflect tonight's announcement. The bosses in Munich probably saw something coming...

 

[Deleted member 38366]

AFAIK anything Pharma - such as BASF - will be kept running as long as possible.

There'll obviously be limits which will eventually affect production but I bet they're considered very high priority under these extreme circumstances...

PS.
1st cases popping up in my home town now. Basically went from regional condition "Green" to condition "Yellow".
Using the last days of minimal contamination to bolster supplies, in maybe 7-14 days all bets will be off. Expecting full condition Red no later than in ~3-4 weeks.
Seeing 100% unprepared and unprotected folks running around as if nothing happened. If that keeps up, contamination rates will explode with geometric speed in no time.

 

[Becks]

Ah, my original post didn't reflect tonight's announcement. The bosses in Munich probably saw something coming...

Everyone in the german south (and probably lots of other places) is seeing it coming. The infection chains are already way too complicated to be broken by selective quarantine.

I got the order to quarantine for two weeks beginning today, because my sister is returning from Lombardia after her year abroad was cancelled.

I work at one of the largest manufacturing plants (more than 30000 employees) in Europe and last week we were ordered to take our laptop home at all times. People who work here have been tested positive for the virus and management is very concerned that they get the order to close down the plant.

In all honesty, I don't really know what to do. The situation gets more overwhelming by the day.

 

[rootsrat]

My new gig is with a very large pharma company. They bought out Monsanto.

We're on lockdown until Monday, nearly five thousand of us. Told to go home this morning. Don't know if it's paid time or not.

Good luck with that stock market.

Monsanto was bought out?! :O

 

[ZeroAi]

One way to look at Covid-19 is that it's a blessing in disguise.

I don't mean that people dying from a virus is good, and my heart goes out to all those who have lost loved ones recently. In the USA alone 3 million people pass away each year, leaving 3 million families behind to morn them.

But Covid-19 is showing the world how easy it is for a virus to spread worldwide, something that is a little scary given that it's the 21st century and all.

On the bright side, for the vast majority of the population if they contract Covid-19 it's no worse than getting the flu. Preliminary data shows that Covid-19 is mostly dangerous to the 60+ crowd (and those with weak immune systems,) and also does not seem to be a significant risk to those under 10.

That's good news because the segment of the population most at risk is the easiest to quarantine: The majority of the 60+ crowd is either retired, or have well over 14 days of sick/vacation time saved up.

This in turn means the "working class" can still work through the virus, and "children" can continue to go to school, just like in flu season.

In the end, I don't expect Covid-19 to even take 1% of the lives that the Flu takes every single year, and as a result we should be very thankful that this pandemic won't have more than a momentary impact on us.

That said, I do hope our world heath organizations learn what they need to from this situation so they will be better prepared to stop a more lethal virus in the future.

o7

 

[Ralph Vargr]

Monsanto was bought out?! :O

Two years ago. Bayer has been steadily eradicating all traces of the old St. Louis megacorp, including changing public street names.

I have lots of time to game today. Good thing I'm not flying anymore...

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

One way to look at Covid-19 is that it's a blessing in disguise.

I don't mean that people dying from a virus is good, and my heart goes out to all those who have lost loved ones recently. In the USA alone 3 million people pass away each year, leaving 3 million families behind to morn them.

But Covid-19 is showing the world how easy it is for a virus to spread world wide, something that is a little scary given that it's the 21st century and all.

And on the bright side, for the vast majority of the population if they contract Covid-19 it's no worse than getting the flu. Preliminary data shows that Covid-19 is more dangerous to the 60+ crowd, and also does not seem to currently be a significant risk to those under 10.

And that's good news because the segment of the population most at risk is the easiest to quarantine. The fact is the majority of the 60+ crowd is either retired, or have well over 14 days of sick/vacation time saved up.

This in turn means the "working class" can still work through the virus, and "children" can continue to go to school, just like in flu season.

In the end, I don't expect Covid-19 to even take 1% of the lives that the Flu takes every single year, and as a result we should be very thankful that this pandemic won't have more than a momentary impact on us.

That said, I do hope our world heath organizations learn what they need to from this situation so they will be better prepared to stop a more lethal virus in the future.

o7

you touch on something I mentioned to some colleagues last week...... Rather than going full lockdown I wonder if it would have been better, to have simply gone lockdown for anyone over 60, or living with over 60 or with medical complications such as heart issues/diabetes etc.

the cost to the nation would have been less so this likley could have been brought in sooner. I am sure some would have said it was age discrimination etc and to those i would simply tell to shut up!.

The only good thing i can possibly see for this is it makes people realise the importance of funding the NHS so it may force the governments hand in actually supporting it more.

hindsite 20:20 and all that

 

[Ralph Vargr]

One way to look at Covid-19 is that it's a blessing in disguise.

I don't mean that people dying from a virus is good, and my heart goes out to all those who have lost loved ones recently. In the USA alone 3 million people pass away each year, leaving 3 million families behind to morn them.

But Covid-19 is showing the world how easy it is for a virus to spread world wide, something that is a little scary given that it's the 21st century and all.

And on the bright side, for the vast majority of the population if they contract Covid-19 it's no worse than getting the flu. Preliminary data shows that Covid-19 is more dangerous to the 60+ crowd, and also does not seem to currently be a significant risk to those under 10.

And that's good news because the segment of the population most at risk is the easiest to quarantine. The fact is the majority of the 60+ crowd is either retired, or have well over 14 days of sick/vacation time saved up.

This in turn means the "working class" can still work through the virus, and "children" can continue to go to school, just like in flu season.

In the end, I don't expect Covid-19 to even take 1% of the lives that the Flu takes every single year, and as a result we should be very thankful that this pandemic won't have more than a momentary impact on us.

That said, I do hope our world heath organizations learn what they need to from this situation so they will be better prepared to stop a more lethal virus in the future.

o7

I am well past sixty.

My immune system got whacked badly last January. I am an "at risk" for respiratory ailments patient. I've had a kidney stone, and a minor MI. Scarlet fever as a child. Osteoarthritis. The list goes on.

Also, as a contract worker, my time out is unpaid.

Stay well.

 

[metatheurgist]

In the end, I don't expect Covid-19 to even take 1% of the lives that the Flu takes every single year, and as a result we should be very thankful that this pandemic won't have more than a momentary impact on us.

I think that's going to be an optimistic assessment.