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Can someone explain to me why the British position is "We are lucky if 5% of the population get the Virus" while most other sources I learned from say this Virus is going to pandemically infect about 60-80% or the human population worldwide? I am just curious, what is the science behind either of these 2 assesments ?
 
Can someone explain to me why the British position is "We are lucky if 5% of the population get the Virus" while most other sources I learned from say this Virus is going to pandemically infect about 60-80% or the human population worldwide? I am just curious, what is the science behind either of these 2 assesments ?

If you expect 60-80% infection rate, wouldn't you indeed be lucky to only get 5%? Or am I missing something?
 
Well... I drink very seldom... but I find there to be less issues with expensive blends.
I wonder if there is anything related to the Brits drinking G&T's in India to ward off the ...malaria, right?
The quinine, I think, in the tonic...
Bombay Sapphire is a nice blend for that. And probably could handle additional fresh herbs and whatnot suffused in the mix.

Quinine in today's tonic is not even a fraction of what is used to be. Thays why it does nothing against malaria anymore, but actually is enjoyable to drink.
 
He was 100% absolutely correct in what he said. And you know what? Despite getting off to a bumpy, less than perfect start America is doing as good as anyone else out there.

I don't think we really have a good idea how anyone is doing. And indeed, this is not a zero-sum game where we beat each other. This is humans Vs virus.

While there is no point in bashing any country, I think it is important to clarify that infections will not be reduced to zero 'soon', it is not a great idea to go to work when infected, there are not enough tests to test anyone who wants it, treatment is not provided for free by insurers in the US and the situation is not 'under control'. Whomever said that was wrong, and everyone needs to know that.

I am in touch with two people in US healthcare (in MN and NY), and I am very concerned about their experiences and perspectives. Let's hope it goes well.

Also, and somewhat unmentioned: think of all the 3rd world countries who dont even pretend to have any real testing capacity, and have only a few hundred or even dozen respirators nation wide... They are on their own... :(

On a more happy note: China seems to be winning the fight, and reports suggest they gave started to ship medical equipment to the rest of the world.
 
Very fresh news from Bavaria, the populationlargest Federal State in Germany : ALL Shools and day care institutions, come Monday, will close, until a) schools 4th of April b) daycare 3d of April . Thats is exactly when easter holidays start, so effectively, no school and daycare in Bavaria for 5 weeks, come Monday . This in direct response to the first person in Bavaria dead to CoViD - 19 yesterday . Bavaria has been amongst the top3 in #of confirmed of infected from the Start .

The Saarland, in south east Germany neighbouring to france, also closes down all School and daycares, also unil the end of easterholidays .
 
The only thing that separated Italy from the rest, is that they're the top tourism destination in europe (followed by spain and france). As such they took the bulk of the virus spread earlier and quicker than most others. Their measures to contain the spread were few and inneficient, they only started taking drastic measures when it was already way too late.

They're not the only ones though, pretty much every single country in europe is repeating the exact same mistakes, implementing half-measures until it's far too late.

The only exception is Russia who shut their borders to countries with infected people immediately back in january.
 
Very fresh news from Bavaria, the populationlargest Federal State in Germany : ALL Shools and day care institutions, come Monday, will close, until a) schools 4th of April b) daycare 3d of April . Thats is exactly when easter holidays start, so effectively, no school and daycare in Bavaria for 5 weeks, come Monday . This in direct response to the first person in Bavaria dead to CoViD - 19 yesterday . Bavaria has been amongst the top3 in #of confirmed of infected from the Start .

The Saarland, in south east Germany neighbouring to france, also closes down all School and daycares, also unil the end of easterholidays .
Probably smart.

We closed down Norway, yesterday. Schools, kindergartens, sports, culture, businesses with direct contact(like hairdressers).
Those that can, must work from home.

The schools recently had winter holidays and a lot of people went to the Italian and Austrian alps. A bunch of them came back infected.
We have almost as many infected Norwegians coming from Austria, as the total reported in Austria. 😳
 
Mankind though often foolish and imperfect has always been more characterized by our inherent heroism than any other quality. Just look at those men storming the beaches of Normandy during WWII. Best believe they were afraid, but they did their jobs anyway. That's who we are and we'll get through this mess, too. Now please excuse me, I have to get back to watching Saving Private Ryan again.

If you haven't seen it already, you'll most likely enjoy the mini-series Band of Brothers as well. It's also from Spielberg and Tom Hanks. Some say it's even better than the movie.
 
Given all the North American's and British who died storming the beaches of Normandy, a country that had recently submitted without a struggle to the Reich, I'm slightly disappointed that a Frenchman such as Patrick couldn't muster even a modicum of appreciation and respect. I guess it must soothe the French national consciousness to make believe these men were all conscripts running away from the gunfire of their whip cracking over-lords instead of what they actually doing in reality: giving everything they ever had or ever would have again for a cause greater than themselves to a people that most of them had never met and who would grow to disrespect them and sneer at their contributions in the decades to follow.

In total, an estimated 17,877,000 soldiers died on the European battlefields, including 10,774,000 on the side of the Allies and 7,103,000 on the side of the Axis forces. The killed of the Red Army constitute 53% of the total military losses known in Europe, those of Germany 31%, those of the United Kingdom 1.8%, those of France 1.4% and those of the US military 1.3%.

Nearly 100,000 French soldiers were killed while trying to defend their country against German troops in 1940.

You should respect France as much as I respect the United States.
 
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Being fair to France, they (and other european countries like Holland) took most of the hit from the axis army when the axis were at the very top of their strenght.
 
In your country that was probably true...

In the US during WWII most served with honor, bravery, and distinction and viewed their service as their Patriotic Duty. There was also a clear understanding of why we were fighting in that war.

Unfortunately, that good will was squandered by poor leadership during Korea, to some extent, and completely in Vietnam. We are also in peril of repeating that mistake if we don't disengage from many of our current global conflicts.
An angelic vision of the situation.

Everyone knows that the United States always acts in priority for their interest.

This does not detract from the qualities of the American soldiers, of course.

But to say that they were all volunteers for the heroism, no I can't believe it.
 

Starting the countdown...

Indeed.

It would be good if the thread could make a communal effort to avoid these nosedives off-topic lest it go the way of the last one.

It's the only place online I express anything about the virus situation online and it provides an interesting perspective from different parts of the world so it would be a shame if it got shut.
 
Being fair to France, they (and other european countries like Holland) took most of the hit from the axis army when the axis were at the very top of their strenght.
Thank you to point this fact.

Who in 1940 could resist to the power of the Germany ? Nobody in Europe.
 
Indeed.

It would be good if the thread could make a communal effort to avoid these nosedives off-topic lest it go the way of the last one.

It's the only place online I express anything about the virus situation online and it provides an interesting perspective from different parts of the world so it would be a shame if it got shut.

But if it gets closed...we just open up another and do our best to keep it on track, ok ?
 
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