General / Off-Topic The safest place

[Northpin]

The fact that you can walk around for up to 24 days spreading the Virus before you get Symptoms, heck, even that it can transmit from asymptomatic people took some time to learn.

Tinfoil hat moment:
Looks like the perfect precision bomb, right? Or like a targeted Thanos snap.
Targeting the elders, the weak and the unlucky. Throwing in disarray the "free world".
But containable in autocracies by employing measures that are unthinkable in a "free world"

 

[sewerratuk]

Things are going to get really serious now, McDonalds and Primark have announced they are closing

 

[Mole HD]

At this point, I'd like to know how I can get it, so I can just get over it and move on...

A bad cold

Big deal

I'm sure with that attitude you'll no doubt sample it's cold-like symptoms in no time at all... and no doubt infect many others on the way due entirely to your apparent ignorance

 

[Northpin]

SARS-CoV-2 is SARS

I'd say it's much worse. Maybe not as deadly, but much harder to contain.
Somehow the first SARS was able to be contained and yielded about only 8000 cases and less than 800 deaths

This SARS got 570 cases by 22 January and by the end of January there were close to 12000 already in China.
By the time the first cases were reported in Italy on 15th February, China had about 70000 cases.

 

[Mole HD]

Things are going to get really serious now, McDonalds and Primark have announced they are closing

Damn it...I needed new boxers as well

 

[Trotsky2112]

I'd say it's much worse. Maybe not as deadly, but much harder to contain.
Somehow the first SARS was able to be contained and yielded about only 8000 cases and less than 800 deaths

This SARS got 570 cases by 22 January and by the end of January there were close to 12000 already in China.
By the time the first cases were reported in Italy on 15th February, China had about 70000 cases.

Its not actually SARS, though (right?). COVID is more like a bad cold in most cases, but the more severe symptoms (experienced by the elderly and people with weakened immune systems) can induce the effects of SARS and Pneumonia.

 

[Robin of Spiritwood]

Its not actually SARS, though (right?). COVID is more like a bad cold in most cases, but the more severe symptoms (experienced by the elderly and people with weakened immune systems) can induce the effects of SARS and Pneumonia.

The virus itself is designated SARS-Cov 2. That always confuses things.

Yes, the 2 diseases have a big difference in mortality and infectivity,

 

[Northpin]

so, 23rd of March, outside is 2°C and sleeting
I just turned off the TV and the silence is mind numbing - not a single car passing, nothing moving outside

from this evening between 22:00 and 6:00, the curfew is active

 

[Ian Skippy]

I'm sure with that attitude you'll no doubt sample it's cold-like symptoms in no time at all... and no doubt infect many others on the way due entirely to your apparent ignorance

There is a point where ignorance crosses over into malice...

 

[Ian Skippy]

Damn it...I needed new boxers as well

I have piles of P95 masks, I can stitch them into boxers for you if you want?

 

[Ian Skippy]

Deeply troubling for our friends in Spain...

For comparison:
Netherlands: Day 14, 10.5 deaths/ million.
Belgium: Day 20, 6.5 deaths /million

 

[Ian Skippy]

This is not the approach I would take..

DOJ seeks new emergency powers amid coronavirus pandemic

One of the requests to Congress would allow the department to petition a judge to indefinitely detain someone during an emergency.

www.politico.com

The Justice Department has quietly asked Congress for the ability to ask chief judges to detain people indefinitely without trial during emergencies — part of a push for new powers that comes as the novel coronavirus spreads throughout the United States.

 

[Morbad]

Back in 1918, the 'Spanish' flu epidemic killed an estimated 17m to 50m people worldwide by the time it had run it's course in 1920, that's around a quarter of the world's population at that time and more than the total deaths of all the major wars of that era combined (WW1, WW2 and the Korean war)

Jist is vaguely correct but your proportions are off. The world population c1920 was ~1.9 billion. Roughly quarter of the worlds population was infected in the H1N1 pandemic, and about a tenth of those infected died. Total fatalities were comparable with WWI.

This is not the approach I would take..

DOJ seeks new emergency powers amid coronavirus pandemic

One of the requests to Congress would allow the department to petition a judge to indefinitely detain someone during an emergency.

www.politico.com

Doesn't seem to be very popular with Congress in general, and I'm not particularly worried about them allowing anything like this, yet.

 

[Ian Skippy]

Ah jeez, that's some bad news right there. Something is starting to make me wonder if we don't even have the proper language to identify all the common denominators and underlying causes.

12-year-old girl with coronavirus is on a ventilator and fighting for her life | CNN

Emma, a 12-year-old girl, is "fighting for her life" in an Atlanta hospital after testing positive for the coronavirus, according to her cousin.

edition.cnn.com

Absolutely. There are so many possibilities regarding mutation and unknown exacerbating actions/context, I really hope we can get the 'spring break mentality' out of our collective skulls now.

 

[AkenBosch]

Italian governors and mayors at their best. I can attest subtitles are not made up, 100% what they're saying, tight dialects included.
(Disclaimer: some naughty words)

https://twitter.com/x/status/1241403715036291072

Source: https://twitter.com/protectheflames/status/1241403715036291072?s=20

 

[Good Whiskey]

Its not actually SARS, though (right?). COVID is more like a bad cold in most cases, but the more severe symptoms (experienced by the elderly and people with weakened immune systems) can induce the effects of SARS and Pneumonia.

Yes, it is SARS. They share the same genetic ancestor (core structure). Fortunately there were only 8,098 cases of the previous iteration of SARS that made headlines back in the early 2000s, because its mortality rate was a brutally high 15%. When they say "novel" coronavirus, it just means it's a new form of something we've already dealt with. That said, even a 3% mortality rate is markedly higher than that of our standard cold and flu strains, which combined kill only about 1 in every 1,000 people who pick them up.

 

[lysan]

This is not the approach I would take..

DOJ seeks new emergency powers amid coronavirus pandemic

One of the requests to Congress would allow the department to petition a judge to indefinitely detain someone during an emergency.

www.politico.com

Some politicians will grab any opportunity to gain more power and control, that’s where the 2A comes in.

 

[Patrick_68000]

For more than 95% of the confirmed positive, the pandemic itself will be of little to no consequence
If the economies will collapse, there is a chance that hundreds of millions will suffer fates that might be worse than dying of pneumonia on a hospital bed
But let's hope we dont get there, Covid-19 alone is worse enough

Coronavirus Update (Live): 138,848,897 Cases and 2,985,685 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer

Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...

www.worldometers.info

Unfortunately it is to be feared that economies will take some time to cure the disease too.

 

[Rubbernuke]

Italian governors and mayors at their best. I can attest subtitles are not made up, 100% what they're saying, tight dialects included.
(Disclaimer: some naughty words)

https://twitter.com/x/status/1241403715036291072

Source: https://twitter.com/protectheflames/status/1241403715036291072?s=20

I want these guys for my commune in France.

 

[Xenith]

Unfortunately it is to be feared that economies will take some time to cure the disease too.

Economies can always be rebuilt, and if action had been taken sooner instead of waiting for the pandemic to strike, then the damage would not have been as severe. Putting money before lives has ironically made the economic situation worse.