News Community Update (01/05)

The frustrating part isn't necessarily the waiting. I think the delay was expected with or without a pandemic.

The frustrating part is having no idea what we're waiting for. If it's even worth the wait.
The frustrating part is not having anything to do while we wait (specifically, CGs or IIs or an ongoing, evolving Thargoid invasion, or even reading Galnet).
 
What's really sad is the amount of flat-earthers out there who still believe the COVID-19 is nothing but a hoax and everything can just go back to normal as if it never even happened.

Natural selection, I suppose. "But why didn't someone tell us this was serious???"
While what you are saying is sadly true, I don't think anybody in this topic said that COVID is a hoax. Some of us are just questioning the impact comparing to our professional lives in home office situation. And it's programming, one of the easiest jobs to conduct off premises. What's hard is avoiding distractions, but it can be done, like so:
Source: https://twitter.com/speechwoman/status/1244150990602813440
 
The frustrating part is not having anything to do while we wait (specifically, CGs or IIs or an ongoing, evolving Thargoid invasion, or even reading Galnet).

COVID or not, I was expecting a delay for the New Era. Just look at how long it took to get carriers to us (and IMO, they are nowhere near as interesting or useful as the capital ships in NMS). I really didn't expect an on-time release. Frontier can't even keep the launcher updated these days....:rolleyes:
 
@fd Thanks very much for letting us know.
As mentioned in the thread, I believe FD (and Braben specifically) like to see ‘coats on chairs’ which is unfortunate as now they are unprepared for the required wfh standard.
Whilst working from home can be efficient, I cut FD some slack as nothing could have prepared for the kids and rest of family distractions in this covid time. Plus illness.
I gripe because prior to freelancing, I’ve had a career of persuading bosses that I can work from home :) let’s save car journeys!
Good luck and take care!
Cheers!
 
While what you are saying is sadly true, I don't think anybody in this topic said that COVID is a hoax.

I'm speaking more to general worldviews, not particularly this thread. For people who want to be in denial, they're not going to accept the truth until they end up on a ventilator, and by then it's too late. Nothing is going to be "normal" after this... and we haven't yet determined if there's even going to BE an "after" yet. For all we know, this thing could end up mutating and getting stronger than it is now.
 
I'm speaking more to general worldviews, not particularly this thread. For people who want to be in denial, they're not going to accept the truth until they end up on a ventilator, and by then it's too late. Nothing is going to be "normal" after this... and we haven't yet determined if there's even going to BE an "after" yet. For all we know, this thing could end up mutating and getting stronger than it is now.
Thankfully, that's very unlikely (about as likely as it would be for any other virus to suddenly mutate into a much scarier child variant). The more plausible scary scenario is that, like most existing coronaviruses, resistance only lasts for a few months, and a vaccine is either not possible or extremely difficult to do (we have no vaccines for any coronavirus currently, and we've tried a little bit). In that scenario the virus would just keep circulating unless it was stopped socially, and surviving infection once is no guarantee that next time four months from now won't kill you. It would dramatically lower lifespan if older people had to deal with a ~15% mortality rate infection every half a year, and a lot of people with otherwise manageable health concerns would also die. Healthier and younger people aren't immune either, and there'd be a lot of needless suffering as a result. Hopefully that doesn't happen and with the whole world focussing on it we get a vaccine, hopefully social distancing and aggressive testing/contact tracing manages to get a good handle on it even without a vaccine (we've already seen this work in some countries so we know it's possible), so that those outcomes don't happen.

Even if worst comes to worst though and a vaccine isn't feasible any time soon, we still have ways to deal with the problem. We can pursue non-therapeutic interventions like aforementioned social distancing, ramp up mask production and make sure everyone gets over their childishness about wearing them, ramp up test production and conduct aggressive test and trace operations, get everyone in the population washing their hands regularly and not touching their face, spend more money cleaning surfaces, and expand healthcare capacity significantly so that even if there's a big flare up everyone can get an appropriate level of care and we don't see healthcare breakdowns like in Italy/Spain/Wuhan/UK. That would lower the fatality rate and transmission significantly even in a worst-case scenario. We could feasibly get it down to only ten times worse than the flu (used to be) if we got all that done, and as a side effect we'd have a lot fewer flu deaths.

We will beat this thing. Some governments are a bit derelict in their duties, but even some of the nuttier ones ("herd immunity" and "take it on the chin" don't sound very reassuring being gagged out past a tube) have come to their senses in a significant way, and those countries that don't will just have to be isolated for a while from everyone else, like Brazil and the US. This thing is going to change the world forever in ways both good and mostly bad, but we will come out the other side.
 
I can but I have nothing to announce at this time as to when I will be able to do that. Thank you for your patience. Once I have something to announce I’ll be sure to let you know.
Dont forget the announcement of the announcement, and then delay the release, 2 times.

Elite Dangerous has almost 6 years, and it only got 1 paid Expansion.
I want to see a video of this new thing Era expansion, I still have the impression that FD still doesn't know what to do with the game.
We saw it with the FC, they have no clue. It was delayed after the release of the trailer to change the mechanics and to eliminate 3 support ships. And this update is being developed since 2018.
Why you don't know what to do with the game?
 
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Uhm to my knowledge you don't take money out of a company by selling your shares from that company.
You'd have to own/buy them first in order to be able to sell them thus investing in said company.
Unless Braben stole those shares or got them as a present which is highly unlikely.
The shares are part of FDev, a commodity to gain revenue, initially the shares are FDev's property not Mr. Braben's.

Braben didn't have to buy them. He founded the company as non-publicly traded. When owners decide to take a company public, they are raising capital to invest in business. Usually not all shares are offered publicly, so Braben started with a large chunk of shares on his own.

As business evolves, it is normal to offload shares to diversify wealth. Besos for example regularly sold shares of Amazon to fund Blue Origins.
I'd do the same.

Oh crap is VR going away with the new update?
Nah, some people get their kicks by predicting DOOM! at every opportunity. VR has been DOOMED! in ED since about 3 weeks after it was added according to some.

And some people try to discredit opinions by branding it Doom - easier than forming a counter argument, isn't it?
The opinion is based on three points:
  • Braben dismissed VR as a niche tech, a gimmick that isn't gaming breakthrough
  • VR support as feature has been removed from the Elite homepage
  • Leaks, whose predictions so far have been proven accurate preview legs gameplay, which is difficult to realize in VR
 
I'm wondering how many tests and betas you'd need for a (hypothetically) New Era giant update. If legs are being introduced, or new surfaces thats going to require a lot of testing to check- not to mention anything else.
I'm expecting around 6-7 months of testing. I would think that when they show us in roughly 2 months time, that's when testing starts.

That's just a guess though. They'll tell us when they know for sure what's going to be in the update.
 
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I'm expecting around 6-7 months of testing. I would think that when they show us in roughly 2 months time, that's when testing starts.

That's just a guess though. They'll tell us when they know for sure what's going to be in the update.

If FD have learnt anything they would also have console testing - but, that also raises interesting questions regarding the new consoles too.

The last thing FD need is to release a dodgy performing console port that can't be fixed as fast as the PC version.
 
A bit concerned that you need to advise that following 6 weeks of working from home, you have been forced to publish a slip for a delivery that is 7 months away.
Concerned that you are so tight with your project planning this far out that you were forced to call out the slippage now.

it’ll be what it’ll be.

All projects have a contingency built in - However you don't just throw that time away because of something like this. The contingency is there for problems with the actual project timeline which has no doubt been going through some radical changes these last few weeks.

Best to call it out now this way their team is working to an achievable deadline but still contingency built in... If not then the team would be expected to work under crunch conditions for a much longer time than would otherwise of happened. Frontier would of then been forced to make a delay announcement. To be clear this announcement is not forced as you try and claim for added drama, this is what a well planned project does - They have seen that it is impossible to meet the current deadline given the circumstances and informed us.

If they had not done this and only announced the delay in December then the drama addicts would of been out in force calling them out for bad planning, I suspect you would of been one of them too.

Your concern seems born of ignorance. No matter, project planning is both an art and a science that the universe conspires to destroy at every opportunity.


Good luck Frontier, we'll be here and ready whenever you are.
 
All projects have a contingency built in - However you don't just throw that time away because of something like this. The contingency is there for problems with the actual project timeline which has no doubt been going through some radical changes these last few weeks.

Best to call it out now this way their team is working to an achievable deadline but still contingency built in... If not then the team would be expected to work under crunch conditions for a much longer time than would otherwise of happened. Frontier would of then been forced to make a delay announcement. To be clear this announcement is not forced as you try and claim for added drama, this is what a well planned project does - They have seen that it is impossible to meet the current deadline given the circumstances and informed us.

If they had not done this and only announced the delay in December then the drama addicts would of been out in force calling them out for bad planning, I suspect you would of been one of them too.

Your concern seems born of ignorance. No matter, project planning is both an art and a science that the universe conspires to destroy at every opportunity.


Good luck Frontier, we'll be here and ready whenever you are.

We are on the same page.
I work in IT projects, I know (strongly suspect) how these things work.
The original idea will have been pitched.
A number of teams will have quoted back on doability ( is it feasible in the time requested to do what is being asked for within the budget allowed)
A project manager will have collated the response back and then agreed a final scope / budget / timeline.

This should have included an amount on contingency to cover for unexpected problema and hurdles between theory and practice.

My concern is that 7 months out, the project felt that it had used up all this contingency (and probably more) is worrying.
Releasing the news during the build-up to Fleet Carriers and at the same time blaming something that is still in-flight (Corona virus lockdown) is also short sighted and thoughtless.
It’ll undermine the goodwill that was building towards Frontier for the fleet carrier release for little benefit.

In my opinion:

this is one of the times that I think Frontier should have kept quiet.
I would have instead released an equivalent statement after the Fleet carriers had arrived and the lock down had been lifted.
it could have been the same message ( move to a release in 2021) but with justification along the lines of
‘...now that the lockdown has been lifted, we have done a detailed review of where we are with our progress towards a Late 2020 ‘new era’ release and are unfortunately not where we wanted to be. In order to provide you with the best experience possible, we have taken the decision to move to an early 2021 release. ...’

this would have achieved the same message, and at the same time allocate the blame to a historic issue not an active issue with no currently official endpoint.

it’ll be what it’ll be
 
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