Post Your Support for Elite Odyssey to have VR Support.

VR micmacmoc

VR micmacmoc
Cool it folks....please.
Its still better than anyhing else out there, also....if you fancy a game of four pin bar billiards, bar football or darts whilst supping my craft brewed ales....welll it beats the cr@p out of silly computer games, see you soon? Come on down!
Just bought and filleted two huge Turbot down the quay here. All in glorious real life. Chill folks, eat some proper food. Be nice!
Still want VR,but hey...
 

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Crank Larson said:
I don't enjoy flat E: D. Simple as that. If I did, I'd play it that way. My PC isn't currently connected to a monitor I could play games on, but that isn't the issue in the slightest - I could connect the big screen if I wanted.

Still, I can carry on playing Horizons, so no need to quit.



As I'm not, that's why I asked... Your last few posts have come across as though you were deliberately refusing to understand that someone could stop playing the game due to lack of VR. But maybe it wasn't deliberate. I'm still not sure. :)
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No. I genuinely don't see why you can't just, like, not use VR?

There are worse things out there. Misunderstanding? Yes. Deliberate? No.

I've had a pretty rough life and frankly, having to switch from VR to a monitor for a video game is so insignificant to one's life quality that I am unable to see it as a problem, especially as you can just plug in your monitor and play it anyway.

That's why I can't offer sympathy. Because it really could be worse. I speak from experience!
 

Crank Larson

Crank Larson
Un1k0rn said:
No. I genuinely don't see why you can't just, like, not use VR?

There are worse things out there. Misunderstanding? Yes. Deliberate? No.

I've had a pretty rough life and frankly, having to switch from VR to a monitor for a video game is so insignificant to one's life quality that I am unable to see it as a problem, especially as you can just plug in your monitor and play it anyway.

That's why I can't offer sympathy. Because it really could be worse. I speak from experience!
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I could. I haven't ever said I couldn't. But I'm not going to, as I don't enjoy it. It's as simple as that. I don't need sympathy - it's not an emotional decision. :) I won't be typing a ragequit thread either (I'm not quitting anyway - I have Horizons).
 

Deleted member 110222

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Crank Larson said:
I could. I haven't ever said I couldn't. But I'm not going to, as I don't enjoy it. It's as simple as that. I don't need sympathy - it's not an emotional decision. :) I won't be typing a ragequit thread either (I'm not quitting anyway - I have Horizons).
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Fair do. Shame though. Because I think you'll be missing out on something great when there's literally nothing stopping you from joining in. Enjoyment, objectively, is not a barrier.
 

Craith

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Craith
Not having VR support dropped my mood from hyped to disappointed. I didn't expect extremely fleshed out VR support, I am used to that, all new things had VR as an afterthought at most, but discontinuing VR is disheartening. Will I quit? Well, I have LEP so I will get the expansion, and I will log in from time to time I guess, to meet friends and chat a bit, maybe make a screenshot or two. But since I've flown in VR I don't want to go back to looking at a picture of flying through space, and don't enjoy it much.

There are worse things than a computer game, but Elite is my escape from them - I put on the headset and all problems are gone for a while, I fly through space. At least for now.
 

Azirphaeli

Azirphaeli
I'm cross posting this and hoping it gets an official answer:

Hey Tim, thanks for the clarification on VR but I am still desperately trying to justify purchasing the new expansion and would like some clarification. You said that VR still works in Horizons and Base game. Okay, does this mean the content from those games works in VR no matter what, or that I need to launch THAT VERSION of the game to play in VR? In other words, can I:

Fire up the launcher. Launch Elite Dangerous Odyssey and be in my ship IN VR. Can I fly around and scoot around like normal in VR. Can I fly onto an atmosphere planet in VR and enjoy the vistas, and can I get in my SRV as usual in VR and not worry about it... and then just not engage in legs to avoid being booted to my minitor? Will it do what BEAT SABER does when going into the level editor and pop up saying "You must remove your headset to continue" and allow me to go into legs if I really want to without needing to boot the game back up outside of VR or go into the graphics settings?

OR

In order to play in VR, do I need to explicitly launch Elite Dangerous Horizons and lock myself out of all the new features because I am simply unable to launch the Odessey version of the game and use my VR headset, thus restricting me to being unable to enjoy ANY of the new content until some currently unspecified update?

If it's the former, i still intend to purchase the expansion and enjoy what i can with it. If it's the latter, I'll wait.
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I ask because, let's be real, they have until March 2021 at the latest (assuming no delay) to at least find a way to keep the current VR implimentation working for ship flight and SRV driving which shouldn't, one would think, take that much time. I'd like to support the game and get the expansion but as Craith said the hype is utterly dead right now. It could be renewed if the devs could confirm that I can still launch odyssey in VR and then just avoid foot-based gameplay.

Otherwise, I'll be taking my FC out into the black and not coming back until VR works for odyssey which, lets be real, may never happen.
 

GroG79

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Some things are hard to accept; some are impossible. However we will move on and keep looking forward. At least I do. I will leave the forum for a while. Cause it is impossible to keep a positive attitude with this community.
 

Marklar_

Marklar_
The thing is, for a lot of us ED is specifically a VR game.

Without VR, it's something else to VR players, a different game. It doesn't matter how great that game is, without VR it's not the ED that VR gamers have been playing for years. I won't fly ED pancake, I'll find another VR game instead. There are plenty of pancake FPS games out there if I want that.
 

Crank Larson

Crank Larson
Un1k0rn said:
Fair do. Shame though. Because I think you'll be missing out on something great when there's literally nothing stopping you from joining in. Enjoyment, objectively, is not a barrier.
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I'll give it a go, as I'm a beta backer anyway. But FPS games don't tend to keep me engaged for very long. The last one I completed was Destiny, and since then I've not really played many (more accurately - I've bought quite a few and played each for only a few minutes, so gave up on them). This is part of the reason I'm not really bothered now that I know that Horizons is still supported in VR - I doubt I'd do much outside vehicles anyway.
 

Slowfiddler

Slowfiddler
The only new era thing I was looking forward to was atmosphere landings. I can live without that though. I will stick with Horizons now that FD have confirmed it will continue in VR.
 

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Crank Larson said:
I'll give it a go, as I'm a beta backer anyway. But FPS games don't tend to keep me engaged for very long. The last one I completed was Destiny, and since then I've not really played many (more accurately - I've bought quite a few and played each for only a few minutes, so gave up on them). This is part of the reason I'm not really bothered now that I know that Horizons is still supported in VR - I doubt I'd do much outside vehicles anyway.
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You never know.

It may well end up more like Skyrim than Destiny.

Mechanically, Elder Scrolls is an FPS as well.
 

VR StarLightPL

VR StarLightPL
Un1k0rn said:
No. I genuinely don't see why you can't just, like, not use VR?
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If you haven't experienced it because of a pre-existing medical condition, you won't understand us anyway. If you have experienced it and then taken away from you because of health deterioration then I think you are dismissing it because of that. In both cases I am sorry for your loss, but I share the same mind as @Crank Larson . I can technically play flat Elite, on 4k 55" OLED no less, but egg-shaped planets make me laugh, lack of proper scale cues makes everything small, distances are not there, it's looking at a painting not playing in true 3d. So while I technically played 2d Elite when grinding deliveries for fed xp this year when Corvette was on sale, it was dull and bland. I had no joy from flying. Once you go VR, you rarely get back.

PS: I have trackir and 3d glasses in my drawer somewhere too, not even close to what a vr headset offers.
 
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StarLightPL said:
If you haven't experienced it because of a pre-existing medical condition, you won't understand us anyway. If you have experienced it and then taken away from you because of health deterioration then I think you are dismissing it because of that. In both cases I am sorry for your loss, but I share the same mind as @Crank Larson . I can technically play flat Elite, on 4k 55" OLED no less, but egg-shaped planets make me laugh, lack of proper scale cues makes everything small, distances are not there, it's looking at a painting not playing in true 3d. So while I technically played 2d Elite when grinding deliveries for fed xp this year when Corvette was on sale, it was dull and bland. I had no joy from flying. Once you go VR, you rarely get back.
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Again, feelings. There isn't actually anything stopping you.

Suffice to say, you have options.

I don't.
 

DOCa Cola

DOCa Cola
VR is why i bought Elite in the first place. It turned out to be one of the best, if not the best, seated VR experiences for me that exist.
I'd like to hear what Frontier thinks the future of VR is in ED. Will Odyssey get VR at some point or will VR get dropped entirely in the future? I don't think Frontier will compromise in this decision. Someone made a business decision to either fully support VR at some point or remove it completely from the game. I'd like to hear what Frontier's plan is long term.
 

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Marklar_ said:
Ironically, Skyrim VR works really well in VR aside from a few HUD issues, despite being a port.
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I was referring to his assumption it would play like Destiny, and that it might end up being more like an RPG, and that FPS RPG works very well.

That particular comment of mine was nothing to do with VR.

The reality is this: As it stands, there won't be VR for Odyssey. There's nothing any of us can do about that.

Cliche to say, but the words "deal with it" do actually apply here.

And I have no issue with the possibility of VR support. I hope you all get it.

But the priority has to be everyone first, VR second. Because those with VR can still play regardless. Not the other way around.

There's a word beginning with P that I am avoiding because it upsets people for some reason but I suspect you can guess what I am referring to.

It is not a swear word BTW, or a slur.
 

Azirphaeli

Azirphaeli
Un1k0rn said:
No. I genuinely don't see why you can't just, like, not use VR?
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Because it's the preferred and familiar way to play the game.
If they dropped HOTAS and M/K support would you say "Why not just use an XBOX controller?"
If they dropped multimon support would you tell those who bought three monitors for Elite "Just enjoy it on the one?"
If they stopped supporting on PC would you tell people "Why not just like... play on PS4?"

I've been playing elite for so long there's muscle memory and familiar actions that I've been doing for years. Turning to look with my head to track a pirate in a haz rez, looping around a station looking up to track the time to arrival until it reaches 6 seconds. Judging distance based on the 3d effect that VR provides, ducking down to look through the remaining glass on my broken canopy to continue to track my target.

Just like how I use my HOTAS and have familiar and expected controls with it that, should I suddenly be forced to use a gamepad would feel awful and clunky and just not fun. On top of that, the experience itself suffers, going from being seemingly surrounded by the game world, the scale and the atmosphere, to just viewing it on a monitor is a complete downgrade to the experience for those who have been used to VR for years.

We CAN play on a monitor. The experience, however, will suffer greatly for it.
 
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