I admire your optimism, and once upon time I shared it, however, Frontier have a track record that negates such optimism, ask yourself this, where are the additional types of SRV that were promised as coming throughout the horizons season during the reveal for horizons and its beta?
ANNOUNCEMENT Elite Dangerous: Odyssey Announcement
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Yeah, the same David Braben who said this in April 1014
From the article that was published on 11th April 2014 (https://www.mcvuk.com/development-news/how-frontier-is-bringing-elite-dangerous-to-vr/), which was during beta pre release, in response to the article 'How Frontier is bringing Elite: Dangerous to VR', David Braben OBE had this to say:
Why did you decide to add VR support to Elite: Dangerous?
It was something requested by backers, but also something we wanted to do too. We have said from the start that we are writing this game for ourselves, and collectively we were excited by VR.
How did this affect the overall development of the game? What did you have to take into account when adding VR functionality?
It hasn’t especially affected the game’s development because it was such a natural fit. We had to bear in mind that most people would still play the game without VR. From our alpha test, nearly ten per cent of players played using Oculus Rift – it was a surprise to us that it was so high, given the kit that is out now is essentially a developer kit.
When supporting VR we looked at how we could embrace the extra functionality – so things like displays that pop up when you look at them add to the richness of the experience.
You’re already reimagining a classic games franchise, but what challenges does reimagining it for VR add?
In my mind at least, I was already sitting in a cockpit and flying a spaceship with both the original Elite and with Frontier. VR brings the reality of it one step closer, so it was not really a challenge; very little ‘reimagining’ was needed.
Why did you decide to add VR support to Elite: Dangerous?
It was something requested by backers, but also something we wanted to do too. We have said from the start that we are writing this game for ourselves, and collectively we were excited by VR.
How did this affect the overall development of the game? What did you have to take into account when adding VR functionality?
It hasn’t especially affected the game’s development because it was such a natural fit. We had to bear in mind that most people would still play the game without VR. From our alpha test, nearly ten per cent of players played using Oculus Rift – it was a surprise to us that it was so high, given the kit that is out now is essentially a developer kit.
When supporting VR we looked at how we could embrace the extra functionality – so things like displays that pop up when you look at them add to the richness of the experience.
You’re already reimagining a classic games franchise, but what challenges does reimagining it for VR add?
In my mind at least, I was already sitting in a cockpit and flying a spaceship with both the original Elite and with Frontier. VR brings the reality of it one step closer, so it was not really a challenge; very little ‘reimagining’ was needed.
Things have moved on in the VR world. David Braben maybe not so much, who knows?
It was fluff - even fdev confirmed that they never announce things like that in-game. If you remember just before that they announced new HUD types. Also fluff.
ofc at some stage there will be new SRVs, and maybe new HUD - but not because of 2 year old Galnets...
And the big question: are we going to get an on-foot game starting point?
Start off on foot, ship-less, earn enough credits to buy an SRV, then a ship, then take off in a Sidewinder for the first time. I'd seriously want my memory erased, just so that could be my first experience of this game!
Start off on foot, ship-less, earn enough credits to buy an SRV, then a ship, then take off in a Sidewinder for the first time. I'd seriously want my memory erased, just so that could be my first experience of this game!
And yet from all metrics its not the moneyspinner killer product. If games like HL:Alyx make people hack it to be playable without VR rather than buy a headset to play it you have to wonder whats more important. VR is nice to have, but its not the game itself.
And yet Braben has made a massive sucess of FD since KS, five years ago. Maybe he knows something you don't?
Use your imagination. More and better headsets are being made. Prices are getting better. More people are buying them. 6 years ago it was nothing.
People without VR using a hacked version of the game to play it does not mean VR games do not make money. Alyx has sold ~1.8million copies in a matter of months vs. Elite's ~3.5million copies in ~5+1/2 years. Which is more lucrative?
Dear FDev,
Is Odyssey likely to include any improvements/changes to that diabolical mini-game known as the FSS?
Many Thanks
Is Odyssey likely to include any improvements/changes to that diabolical mini-game known as the FSS?
Many Thanks
I said who knows,
Yeah, they are dropping VR support, lolz!!!!
I've only been playing a touch over 2 years, Jay... What we had then is all I have ever known, bar reading profusely on the forum about the game's developments, of course
If I was to just shrug and say "ain't gonna happen" regarding VR and Odyssey because of Frontier's past approach to the game, I'd not be terribly happy if I'd abandoned the game, dropped from the forum (Well, I'd hate to be labeled 'undead') then found out a year or two after launch that it had been included in a patch soon after...
One more DCS spam and I'm off, listen to what Growling Sidewinder (78.4K subscribers) says about DCS 2.5.6 and how it feels flying in VR.
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Yes but that isn’t just a Pittsburgh thing unfortunately.
i agree with you that on a technical side of things, it is possible to separate DLC engine from base game engine. but it is such a messy way of doing it, and totally not a common practice. generally when you upgrade your game engine, you want your entire game to benefit from it, including the faster running tech, bug fixe, graphical fidelity etc... shipping an entire new upgraded engine separate from the base one, with the new DLC would messily increase the download size, and overall messyness of the entire thing. even though you see multiple options to launch with from the launcher, they are only executables, and they refer to the same engine in the background. trust me, i know a thing or two about this stuff since im a game dev myself.
also judging from how they did things previously with horizons, i was confidently concluding that it would follow the same pattern. i can assure you 99% that the engine upgrades are going to be shared throughout the expansions. even though, technically it doesn't have to. just based on the odds of common game dev practices, and FDs past patterns.
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Unless PS5 makes VR mainstream, I can't honestly see joe public go out, buy a top end PC, GPU and headset, find the space to set it up because the cost of entry is still far too high.
I've said this elsewhere in this thread, but the VR players aren't quite the undead*, we are protesting in the forum in the hope we can sway Frontier to include VR in odyssey.I've only been playing a touch over 2 years, Jay... What we had then is all I have ever known, bar reading profusely on the forum about the game's developments, of course
If I was to just shrug and say "ain't gonna happen" regarding VR and Odyssey because of Frontier's past approach to the game, I'd not be terribly happy if I'd abandoned the game, dropped from the forum (Well, I'd hate to be labeled 'undead') then found out a year or two after launch that it had been included in a patch soon after...
*undead being defined as not played the game in ages but still rattling around the forums having a whinge and a moan.
But was it popular because it was Half Life, or VR? What was the draw?
It's only a matter of time. Same as all technology. I remember when PC's and mobile phones were for rich people.
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