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Raises hand.... Some of us have!
I wonder how many folk would have bought the oculus version of the game had then known that it would not be compatible with future dlc?
ANNOUNCEMENT Elite Dangerous: Odyssey Announcement
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I wonder how many folk would have bought the oculus version of the game had then known that it would not be compatible with future dlc?
OK but you won't understand my position in the argument and that of many others who have a great experience in VR and as I keep saying a huge investment in the game. I would have thought that investment, loyalty and commitment would have counted for something. I know for a fact that other people have started playing and invested themselves because of my experience. And all that has been thrown away.
It's your mistake for thinking there is some sort of contract for keeping VR in all future DLC. VR is niche. Expect all software developers to carefully weigh the costs vs. the benefits.
Why isn't Odyssey a PS5 exclusive? Because PC gaming is not a niche. Why doesn't it have VR? Because VR is niche.
that is exactly what i meant by making things a bit too messy than it needs to be. and stretching the odds quite far from our current context.
shipping two standalones or three in one game, with different builds each having it's own improvements and modifications to the engine, that only apply to that one standalone is a strange way of doing it. i can only see it being usefull, if the DLC in question is it's own different game, like you're pac-man analogy. yes, it can be it's own separate build in that case.
but in our context here, horizons, aswell as odyssey are literally the same intertwined multiplayer game world, same universe, same old zones, but with extras on them. and players can interact seamlessly across base, horizons and odyssey. suggesting that they are separate builds sounds a bit unlikely to me. especially, when the only changes we are talking about here, is (and im assuming here) some new post-processing filters, better shaders, and some better terrain mesh generation. these dont sound to me, like the features you'd need an entirely separate build for.
the reason why im confident odyssey cannot be it's separate standalone build, is because players who dont own it, can still land on planets and watch players walking around, even shoot and interact with them. if we suppose that horizons dlc is it's separate standalone build from odyssey, then how can it contain content that is in an entirely separate standalone build of the game. walking players shouldnt exist in the horizons version of the game, yet they interact with each other seamlessly. same goes for interactions between base and horizons. do you see what i mean? it's a multiplayer game. all the content from all the expansions needs to be present in one build. they only resitrict access to the dlc by artificial means.
also, nice to see a fellow dev in these forums o7
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Not scrapping it but read the first post. It will have "coveted engineering" which basically means "do FPS or fall behind and be inferior to everyone in open". It was the same for Horizons, you couldn't compete without engineering.
Excuse me, I think I've paid already....... Lifetime Expansion Pack?
Lifetime pass owners?
LOL! FD has the actual metrics of their own sales, including VR usage! I LOVE this hilarious take that makes it sound like FD is purposefully ignoring sales as some sort of personal insult!
Yes, You can stay and log out in the ship. But if you land on a planet in a city hangar you wake up in a " hotel" after log in again.
But you can also land just outside the city and walk into the city.
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I do not believe for one second that the current VR population represents 1-2% of the Elite population and anything other than FD actually publishing data to this effect will convince me otherwise. Those numbers are the kind of numbers of how many Steam owners have VR - the proportion of ED players that have VR is going to be higher simply because a random VR player is more likely to have ED in their games library than a random non-VR player.
Hopefully they'll be of the hoopy type.
... and you don't. It therefore remains a distinct possibility that FD has underestimated the amount of pushback from the VR community that this would generate and the strategic decision has been made based on that faulty assumption. You repeating the same argument with the same pitfalls over and over again is not going to change this.
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And I remember when LaserDisc, Betamax, DAT, HD DVD and 3D TV were only for rich people.
That just doesn't make sense. They know exactly how many people use VR, obviously they understand people who use VR enjoy using VR. People who enjoy VR dont enjoy it when VR support goes away. No clue what you think a faulty rationale could be. "Hey guys, lets remove VR. I am sure the people who use VR, and we know exactly how many, would not mind.".
And what amount of push back are you even talking about? There are like a 100 dudes at most being upset to some extend. When FD added the FSS and removed the ADS pushback from ADS users was far wilder.
You seem to be taking great pleasure in a part of the Elite Dangerous community being denied this update. Why is that?
Very well said, entirely agree.I definitely would try out VR before buying it, for it's too expensive as an experiment. Sadly, not everyone feels comfortable with it at once, some can never adapt, and if not, it causes an odd pain in the back of the head and makes you vomit. A friend of mine really tried for two weeks and had to send the set back. Afterwards he dropped ED altogether after two years, because pancake just didn't cut it anymore, he said he had tears in his eyes when standing beside his Conda for the first time. My wife also has problems. I myself had to adapt for about a week until my brain was successfully convinced it was not intoxicated and since felt comfortable everywhere, including the SRV at Guardian sites in the dark. Flew all the way to Beagle and back in VR, more than 2k hours altogether, did all the Thargoid stuff with it, yes, an Interceptor is really 250m tall and that makes a difference, and watched the lightshow inside the structures being just there instead of looking at it. And so on. Ok, Horizons forever it may be for me, lets see. I've achieved about everything the game allows for, and it may be better to end on a high note. Time will tell.
O7,
There is a difference between understanding that someone enjoys and prefers using VR and understanding that they would not play without VR.
Doesn't mean anything.
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