Update Scheduled downtime and Maintenance - 17/06/2020

"This patch will address various bugs and ISSUES that you have reported to us, with the patch notes to come tomorrow."

Giant nerf bat incoming. People who are jealous of the wealth being created and fun being had went and cried to mommy. Dang. Fun is over.

you took the words right out of my mouth. Worst part is the kids crying are already rich af, and just don't want anyone else getting as rich. If not that, then expecting everyone to dedicate their lives to this game just to get anywhere. I'll be honest, nobody wants to play a game where you have to put 1,000 hours in just to get anywhere even half decent. I put my time into this game, over 28 weeks, and over 1000 hours just to get into an FDL. Just because a few people abuse it don't ruin it for the rest of us, and for the love of god stop listening to all the crybabies whining about people getting a nice payday for once. It's not like we don't have to grind a pile of other crap in this game anyway....
 
you took the words right out of my mouth. Worst part is the kids crying are already rich af, and just don't want anyone else getting as rich. If not that, then expecting everyone to dedicate their lives to this game just to get anywhere. I'll be honest, nobody wants to play a game where you have to put 1,000 hours in just to get anywhere even half decent. I put my time into this game, over 28 weeks, and over 1000 hours just to get into an FDL. Just because a few people abuse it don't ruin it for the rest of us, and for the love of god stop listening to all the crybabies whining about people getting a nice payday for once. It's not like we don't have to grind a pile of other crap in this game anyway....
It is a case of I had to suffer so should others. I find it akin to gatekeeping. If players wanna kill off their drive and motivation by getting rich too quick more power to them. But that should be their choice. Honestly I think they should boost combat, and trading as well.
 
Let's see what happens. Hopefully not a nerf of the SSD mining, as more LTD spawns was mentioned as an intentional fix previously. That said, I've got my FC, 3.5bn in its bank, and 5.5bn in my bank for toys. Just give me more than 120 module storage!
 
It is a case of I had to suffer so should others. I find it akin to gatekeeping. If players wanna kill off their drive and motivation by getting rich too quick more power to them. But that should be their choice. Honestly I think they should boost combat, and trading as well.

Combat deffo needs a buff, especially the grind to Elite combat. I don't do combat because it doesn't pay well, and the grind to Elite (even smashing 100's of goid scouts) is numbing.
 
Combat deffo needs a buff, especially the grind to Elite combat. I don't do combat because it doesn't pay well, and the grind to Elite (even smashing 100's of goid scouts) is numbing.
With the boost to SSD mining I actually enjoy the activity now. I can scout cores and laser mine in the same time as well without losing time. I have been having fun talking to all the miners and taking FC taxi's intentionally even through it is only 8 jumps atm just to interact and talk with other players.
 
Question is why am I expert rank yet and my pilot Harmless->Elite already done. Despite NPC is 6 months younger. I thought we split 50/50 >:
 
Grind to elite in combat?
...doesn't exist - unless self-inflicted :)
I'll get there eventually on all 3 of my accounts, but won't be 'grinding' any time soon!

When you get to "end game" and run out of stuff to do, then these things are on your to-do list. I'm Elite in trade and explore, so need trip-Elite. Then there's a road trip to Colonia in my FC, to also unlock the remaining Engineers. Then sweep up the remaining Guardian blueprints.
 
I'll agree, part of the issue isn't that mining is too profitable, it's that everything else is so unprofitable that it makes every other activity irrelevant for profit. Now, a lot of the people crying about the huge profits and whatnot seem to forget that people play the game to do other things than make money. I do a fair amount of BGS, which is not only unprofitable, but actually costs money much of the time. Powerplay is a joke for money, as is literally anything combat related (especially after the massacre missions buff). Oh, and if that's not enough, all the other stuff we have to grind for. Y'all seem to forget what an absolute pain the engineer unlocking grind is, then there's farming materials grind to actually get engineering done, the tech broker grind, the empire/fed rank grind, powerplay grind at minimum for the toys, and I'm probably forgetting another grind here......oh yeah, the elite ranks grind.....and we have people who want to bring the horrific credit grind back we had in the 2016 era. No, NO FREAKING WAY!!! I can't tell you how many people will stop playing if you do this, not in combination with all the other grinds we have to do in this game. Nobody wants to have to put 1,000 hours into a game just to get to barely mediocre.....and y'all wonder why the community is dying. This, this crap right freaking here.
 
Question is why am I expert rank yet and my pilot Harmless->Elite already done. Despite NPC is 6 months younger. I thought we split 50/50 >:
They will only level up with you if you have them on your ship during combat. If they are sitting on a station they are only money sinks.
 
I'll agree, part of the issue isn't that mining is too profitable, it's that everything else is so unprofitable that it makes every other activity irrelevant for profit. Now, a lot of the people crying about the huge profits and whatnot seem to forget that people play the game to do other things than make money. I do a fair amount of BGS, which is not only unprofitable, but actually costs money much of the time. Powerplay is a joke for money, as is literally anything combat related (especially after the massacre missions buff). Oh, and if that's not enough, all the other stuff we have to grind for. Y'all seem to forget what an absolute pain the engineer unlocking grind is, then there's farming materials grind to actually get engineering done, the tech broker grind, the empire/fed rank grind, powerplay grind at minimum for the toys, and I'm probably forgetting another grind here......oh yeah, the elite ranks grind.....and we have people who want to bring the horrific credit grind back we had in the 2016 era. No, NO FREAKING WAY!!! I can't tell you how many people will stop playing if you do this, not in combination with all the other grinds we have to do in this game. Nobody wants to have to put 1,000 hours into a game just to get to barely mediocre.....and y'all wonder why the community is dying. This, this crap right freaking here.
Yeah the engineer grind for all my ships is where I only want to be grinding. If I want to get my credits out of the way what's it to other players. Me having credits doesn't affect them. Me having a fully engineers ship on the other hand can and does.
 
I'll agree, part of the issue isn't that mining is too profitable, it's that everything else is so unprofitable that it makes every other activity irrelevant for profit. Now, a lot of the people crying about the huge profits and whatnot seem to forget that people play the game to do other things than make money. I do a fair amount of BGS, which is not only unprofitable, but actually costs money much of the time. Powerplay is a joke for money, as is literally anything combat related (especially after the massacre missions buff). Oh, and if that's not enough, all the other stuff we have to grind for. Y'all seem to forget what an absolute pain the engineer unlocking grind is, then there's farming materials grind to actually get engineering done, the tech broker grind, the empire/fed rank grind, powerplay grind at minimum for the toys, and I'm probably forgetting another grind here......oh yeah, the elite ranks grind.....and we have people who want to bring the horrific credit grind back we had in the 2016 era. No, NO FREAKING WAY!!! I can't tell you how many people will stop playing if you do this, not in combination with all the other grinds we have to do in this game. Nobody wants to have to put 1,000 hours into a game just to get to barely mediocre.....and y'all wonder why the community is dying. This, this crap right freaking here.

You have brought my anxiety back..... that was some grind right there. Especially the imperial one so I could buy a cutter, only for it to spend its life gathering dust and being a module storage option.
 
NO LEAVE MINING ALONE!!!!!! JUST BECAUSE YOU GOT RICH DOESN'T MEAN THE REST OF US DON'T DESERVE A CHANCE!!! Ya know some of us actually work for a living and have lives, right? You know there's a pile of other crap we already have to grind for too, right? Leave mining the F alone!!!!

Yip.

I'll never understand why the 'sackcloth and ashes' brigade want everyone to play the game their way.
 
you took the words right out of my mouth. Worst part is the kids crying are already rich af, and just don't want anyone else getting as rich. If not that, then expecting everyone to dedicate their lives to this game just to get anywhere. I'll be honest, nobody wants to play a game where you have to put 1,000 hours in just to get anywhere even half decent. I put my time into this game, over 28 weeks, and over 1000 hours just to get into an FDL. Just because a few people abuse it don't ruin it for the rest of us, and for the love of god stop listening to all the crybabies whining about people getting a nice payday for once. It's not like we don't have to grind a pile of other crap in this game anyway....
How i understand you... 3000h and counting!
 
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