3rd DLC Pack Discussion - What region do you think it will cover? When do you see it releasing?

Hello everybody,

Australia sounds good for me. But I have a different wishlist for this dlc.
What do you think about the following idea.
  • a kind of Kangaroo or wallaby is save
  • Koala is a must have
  • Emu or cassowary is also ok for me
New Ideas
  • Dugong is a beautiful creature
  • australian sea lion or australian fur seal
  • flying fox
  • brolga (I don‘t know the english word).
  • bush turkey
for exibits maybe a Taipan or the thorny devil.
Well, those animals would also be welcome just like any other. But they're all very very unlikely.
I doubt Frontier would take the risk of introducing dugongs or sea lions without diving animations. We'll only get these when diving is implemented, if it ever is.
Same applies for flying animals. At this point it's too optimistic to think we'll have any sort of flying mechanics (even if just in loops) anytime soon.
Brush turkey is more of a ground dwelling bird so it could be the most likely option. However, it's not very common in zoos outside of Australia, afaik. (Just 6 zoos in Europe, for instance).
 
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I‘m with your opinion. Maybe it is to early for sea/diving animals. But the dugong swims and dive very slow in low water. Perhaps we have Chance for the first diving animal. The animation could be a sinking animal. The same like the hippo. The sydney aquarium has dugongs for example. Manatis are the most sea cows in zoos. They are from africa or the caribean seas. The dugongs are located mostly at the australian coast and they are on the red list.
 
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To be honest, i hope we are not getting another DLC soon. Planet Zoo has a lot of gamebreaking problems which need to be fixed. Some of these problems have been in the game since release. Also i understand the whole Covid Situation is hard, but i cant believe that they are not able to work on the game at all. Its like every other programm or APP out there, we are still here and using the "product" so why is it taking to long for a new patch?

That beeing said, yes i wish for more DLC in the future. Australia sound like it could have really exctiting new animals to add to the game. Maybe also more aquatic animals, i would love to build habitats for penguins, whales or just make a huge aquarium and fill it with fishes. Maybe they could take the idea of the small exhibits and make small like 4x4 aquariums or something like that, then we click it and choose what fishes to drop in.
I wouldn't have thought a DLC would have any impact of bugs being worked on. These usually would be different teams/ skill sets.
 
I‘m with your opinion. Maybe it is to early for sea/diving animals. But the dugong swims and dive very slow in low water. Perhaps we have Chance for the first diving animal. The animation could be a sinking animal. The same like the hippo. The sydney aquarium has dugongs for example. Manatis are the most sea cows in zoos. They are from africa or the caribean seas. The dugongs are located mostly at the australian coast and they are on the red list.
Personally would be disappointed if dugongs made it before other animals. (only seen 1 or 2 requests for that animal).
 
Personally would be disappointed if dugongs made it before other animals. (only seen 1 or 2 requests for that animal).

I agree. They are cool animals but with a limited number of DLCs and a limited number of animals in each DLC I’m hoping for key representative animals rather than more quirky or unusual species.
 
I have to say I’d be excited over a dugong as it would open the door to so many other possibilities. Plus the exhibits you could build for them would also be amazing. I doubt will see one personally but to me it would be such a unique unexpected animal much like the dall sheep in the Arctic pack. I actually seen a YouTube video yesterday about how he thought the next dlc would be either Asia or Africa because he believed dlc was a continent package. He considered the Arctic pack as North American dlc(don’t know if I agree on that) but he thought Australia would be to predictable so his bet was Asia or Africa so will see soon I guess.
 
I agree. They are cool animals but with a limited number of DLCs and a limited number of animals in each DLC I’m hoping for key representative animals rather than more quirky or unusual species.
I'd like to see some unique/quirky/unusual animals but from the start I expect the flagship species to be addressed first. I don't mind 1 surprise animal in a DLC.
I really like the Dall sheep, didn't see that animal on any list back then. I hope they continue doing this.

But with highly requested DLC types (Marine/Avian), I think it would be wiser to pick a few important species first.
 
He considered the Arctic pack as North American dlc(don’t know if I agree on that) but he thought Australia would be to predictable so his bet was Asia or Africa so will see soon I guess

Haha, if it were a North American DLC - it would have a different name. :D

We'll just have to wait and see.. Random Goat's post about continent-region was a very interesting one.

Some people mentioned the logic from Winter - Arctic, Spring - SA, Summer - Australia.
Winter - Arctic, that's something I understand.
But the whole logic behind Spring-SA and Summer-Australia is something I do not get.
I don't associate spring with South America and summer with Australia.

Not saying Australia couldn't be the next DLC. I think people are creating a theory that fits their logic or a mix of wishes/expectations. :D
 
Some people mentioned the logic from Winter - Arctic, Spring - SA, Summer - Australia.
Winter - Arctic, that's something I understand.
But the whole logic behind Spring-SA and Summer-Australia is something I do not get.
I don't associate spring with South America and summer with Australia.

Not saying Australia couldn't be the next DLC. I think people are creating a theory that fits their logic or a mix of wishes/expectations. :D

Frontier themselves referred to it being spring and getting warmer as they introduced the South America pack and obviously the Arctic pack was mid-winter in the northern hemisphere so I think that’s where the seasonal associations are being made.

I would say that Australia still makes sense as it’s the biggest gap in the lineup and along with African rhinos, kangaroos are maybe the most obvious base game choices that were left out.

I saw the video where he said Australia was too obvious so they’ll hold it back but I don’t really get that logic.

My feeling is that we will get a few more regional DLCs and then they’ll explore other themes.
 
Frontier themselves referred to it being spring and getting warmer as they introduced the South America pack and obviously the Arctic pack was mid-winter in the northern hemisphere so I think that’s where the seasonal associations are being made

I know what comment you are referring to :D
But I think it's just a mix of things to make a nice introduction for a DLC. Personally don't assume too much on a marketing introduction.
Like you could easily make a nice introduction when it's freezing cold and referring to warmer/tropical climates.

But if we go with that assumption. Africa would fit that better. (don't think that will be the DLC)
 
We have more than two supporters for the Dugong ;) now.
Who wants a zoo only with „normal“ animals? Nobody. I think the mix make the best Zoo. Exotic and general Zoo animals. When you have read my australia post mindful. You understand my idea.
We all have different opinions and that is the right way.
Back to the topic. Australia or a desert DLC is comming.
 
We have more than two supporters for the Dugong ;) now.
Who wants a zoo only with „normal“ animals? Nobody. I think the mix make the best Zoo. Exotic and general Zoo animals...

We all have different opinions and that is the right way.

We all have different motivations and ideas and that’s what makes it fun to see everyone’s zoos.
 
Normal/exotic also depends on what region you're from
When you live in the Netherlands most species are exotic :D

Imo the only "boring" animal so far in DLC, was the Arctic wolf.
Other than that, the selection of animals are great.

I don't think people only want "normal" animals but some species are too exotic (not even in zoos)
Humboldt penguin, Californian sea lion, some kind of otter and the dugong as surprise
I think most people will be happy with such a selection (me too), but adding a Great White Shark would conflict with some people's view on zoo animals. That's too exotic (no Great White Sharks in captivity).
 
I think most people will be happy with such a selection (me too), but adding a Great White Shark would conflict with some people's view on zoo animals. That's too exotic (no Great White Sharks in captivity).

I wouldn't say great whites are exotic. They just are impossible to keep alive in aquariums for some reason. The longest one has lived in captivity is 5 weeks. Before that it was 16 days record. They just die if not in the ocean. Which is too bad because they could benefit from conservation efforts.

But on the topic of animals in game, I do like the random unexpected animal too because usually I learn something new about that animal I wouldn't have otherwise.
 
I agree. They are cool animals but with a limited number of DLCs and a limited number of animals in each DLC I’m hoping for key representative animals rather than more quirky or unusual species.

Well, we need to keep asking for more animals per pack. 😁
 
I think we'll either get Australia, Oceania or Deserts as the next DLC, and it shouldn't be too far away (announced in the next couple of weeks and released a week later). I'm hoping for Australia, although i think that a couple of aspects of this will be difficult to implement in a satisfying way, mostly to do with macropods (kangaroos etc.):

1: Hopping: It's hard to get the animation for hopping right - macropods move like nothing else in the game and animations of them often fail to get it looking good.... They tend to look like they're jumping from one spot to another, rather than bouncing (using the ligaments in their legs as springs). I really hope that, when they're added, the animations look good.

2: Pouches: It just wouldn't be right if joeys didn't use pouches - unfortunately, i suspect that this won't be a feature, given that birds etc. don't lay eggs in the game and the animations / behavioural programming might be tricky to implement.

That being said, i still think Australia DLC is most likely. So far DLCs have had 4 habitat animals, so i guess that's the most likely number. The SA DLC was careful to add animals from a mix of biomes, so i suspect this one will do something similar:

My prediction (not necessarily what i'd most like) is:
1: Red Kangaroo (Desert);
2: Wombat (Grassland);
3: Tasmanian Devil (Grassland) or Tasmanian (Bennet's) Wallaby (Grassland, walk-through),
4: Emu (Desert/Grassland), Cassowary (Tropical) or Perentie (Desert)

I think there is a small possibility of an additional animal.. If so I'd guess another macropod, probably a wallaby. I know a lot of people are thinking koalas are a pretty sure bet, but i'm predicting/hoping that its not there. Why? Because koala behaviour pretty much consists of sitting in a tree asleep and occasionally waking up to nibble something - Given that the arboreal animals in the game already don't spend enough time in the trees, i don't think koalas would either, and koalas spending most of their time running around on the ground just wouldn't be right (which is why i was fine with no sloths for SA DLC)

We might not get an exhibit animal (although there are lots of possibilities, there are already a reasonable number of Australian exhibit animals in the game). I also think that we won't get as many build pieces as we did for SA DLC - probably some Aboriginal themed rocks (cave paintings) and similar... However, I think we'll get quite a lot of plants (i certainly hope so!) - at least 2 eucalypts (fairly generic ones), kangaroo paw, and some other stuff.

I do think, however, that we'll get at least one new scenario, possibly a couple (personally i'd prefer more build stuff or an exhibit animal, but this is my prediction).

As a last, out there, prediction, I'm guessing a bit of a surprise: A new, Australian (red) desert map (with rocks to match) that is loaded if you choose Australia Desert as the biome.

On the other hand, Frontier has been pretty good at adding unexpected animals as well as more obvious ones so far, so who knows?
 
@ElectricMonk Oh damn, you raise some really good points. I hadn’t thought it through to that point. Who knows, Frontier continue to out-do themselves, so we might find hopping kangaroos with functional pouches, and koalas who are mostly arboreal, but I am wondering if these features will be implemented. I really hope so, but I can see Frontier opting for “joeys at foot” rather than functional pouches. That would be a real shame, and I’m hoping that they do get around to patching in suckling for mammals eventually.

I wonder how hard it would be to program animals like koalas so that they always spend 90% of their time in trees.
 
I was thinking about koalas/sloths recently and one way to do this could be:
There would be an "enrichment" tree item special for koalas/sloths - there might be variations of this tree for diversity. This tree would be used for sleeping/enrichment and feeding.
Keepers could place eucalyptus branches to this tree, just as they would fill in any other food station. That way koalas/sloths would mostly stay on this tree and most of they wandering would be on this tree.
Occasionally they could go down. I think that with additional programing (those animals would sleep longer than other species and would not have that big need to wander around habitat) it could work.

In my opinion they are just too iconic to be left out completely, even ZT2 had koalas. Any thoughts? Not sure if that could work, because I know nothing of programing, but I think that would be a pretty good solution in theory.
 
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