PvP pve in open idea
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@Brrokk
It's not about ego the discussion is about fixing the overall galaxy content to put us all in one pot affecting it.
I love this game. Contrary to what you might think I do so much more than just combat. I flip systems solo. I exploit crash sites I mine solo I do all these things. As does most others.
Does it work? The current mechanics? Yes in a screwed up weird get away with vibe yeah it does. Barely.
To me it's broken and Lots would agree. Again from all walks of the game.
It's not about ego the discussion is about fixing the overall galaxy content to put us all in one pot affecting it.
I love this game. Contrary to what you might think I do so much more than just combat. I flip systems solo. I exploit crash sites I mine solo I do all these things. As does most others.
Does it work? The current mechanics? Yes in a screwed up weird get away with vibe yeah it does. Barely.
To me it's broken and Lots would agree. Again from all walks of the game.
Because a goal scored in one of the 'verses has no impact on any of the others.
Robert Maynard
Volunteer Moderator
Is this a reference to the three game platforms or the three game modes?
If it's the latter, it's each player's choice whether to play in a game mode where they may engage or be engaged in PvP - the BGS doesn't care what mode a player is in though.
That's you choosing the break the game though, not that the game is broken
Robert Maynard
Volunteer Moderator
We are all in one pot - there is only one BGS - we don't need to play with each other to affect it though.
Really?
I ain't rich, nor do I mine... (I also don't play solo - but 2 of 3 accounts 'live' mostly in PG)
Me, I just want to play the game and enjoy the time I spend in it - that usually means either alone or with a couple of friends... The game provides sufficient 'distraction' from my chosen tasks with NPC interference, all is fine
I know you class yourself as a 'good guy', that's fine - but, hard though it may be to comprehend, some of us just want to play and enjoy what the game has to offer without sharing that game time with a bunch of randoms... Nowt to do with getting rich or mining...
Modes are fine. It's not like we haven't been seeing similar complaints for over five years...
All good IMO. I was just complaining about the use of the word "hiding", which shows ignorance of what other people want in their play. At the extreme there are Solo players who want a single-player game with no human interaction; they aren't hiding, they're using the game features to get the play they want - as we all do. I would need really excessive ego, an assumption that the game is all about me, to describe this as "hiding".
(Edit) If Solo players are described as "hidden", that's literally true, but "hiding" implies some intentionality which is only there in the mind of the person complaining about it.
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And I totally agree you should be allowed to in the same pot. It would add to the overall game experience. We wing up pgs cos it's easier. No interventions. Times precious. I'm just saying if it was all in open it would be a bit more spicy! Who knows who may come intervene in a cz. The factions players for example.
Say I and a few buddies went to a system in war at random with a player faction in open and went to cz then we should be able to find each other in the cz.. that's an example.
And not have that option of pgs or soloing it
Say I and a few buddies went to a system in war at random with a player faction in open and went to cz then we should be able to find each other in the cz.. that's an example.
And not have that option of pgs or soloing it
Robert Maynard
Volunteer Moderator
What some find "spicy", others find "bland and uninteresting".
As the three game modes have been part of the game design at the outset, along with the mode shared galaxy, I don't see them or the shared nature of the galaxy changing more than five years after release - especially given that the most that Frontier have publicly considered is a potential change to Powerplay (and Powerplay was the only game feature considered by Frontier to be suited for such a potential change) to make it either Open only or given a bonus for playing in Open. That investigation started in May 2018 - we have yet to hear the outcome.
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I find it difficult to understand the point of view of someone who continuously contradicts themselves on every point they make.
All of the 'spicy' stuff is in open - didn't you notice?
Why should the rest of us for whom the modes present a fairly relaxing gameplay want 'spicy' just because you do?
Leave it out - we just don't want the same thing - why be bothered with the ones who have no wish to play alongside you and your 'spicy bois'? Are we not allowed 'our' game too?
And how would my spicy game affect yours? Would I be following you..have you ganked someone are you wanted?
Cos if you did...if you are. Then yeah I should be near your proximity. But if your mining in borann II legally minding your own...chances are ill fly past ensuring your safety. Can't see why your so hostile against what's essentially realism.
Single players yes I know. God knows I've mined 15 bill solo. I agree. But I also think it would be better having one huge melting pot and all that goes into it.
And l can say it as much as l like
Cos if you did...if you are. Then yeah I should be near your proximity. But if your mining in borann II legally minding your own...chances are ill fly past ensuring your safety. Can't see why your so hostile against what's essentially realism.
Single players yes I know. God knows I've mined 15 bill solo. I agree. But I also think it would be better having one huge melting pot and all that goes into it.
And l can say it as much as l like
I guess that's the dealbreaker, some people want a casual elite, some want spicy elite. Any change to the current system would harm one sides experience for sure..
Thats not ALL reasons. Some ppl want just to relax among the stars. Much easier to relax without worrying that someone might wreck u.
Surely its not... "realistic" and i totally understand ur point that u want more content and stuff BUT if ppl doesnt want it - then u shouldnt force them (as u are opting for open only but with more protection).
Cause ultimate goal of video game is to have fun.
Omg and noobs in deicat are fun to fight with?
Robert Maynard
Volunteer Moderator
What other players want or consider necessary is of no real importance. A player's choice of who to play with precedes and over-rides any desire that other players may have to play with them.
It's already been established that it's not "real" - it's a video game - a video game where no player requires to engage in in-the-same-instance PvP, ever. Given that the game will have attracted players who have no interest in PvP, it should not be unexpected that there is opposition to an attempt to force all players to play in a PvP enabled game mode.
Of course - just as others can express their opinions regarding the benefits of the three game modes.
Of course - that is why Frontier were wise enough to give players choice...
I just find it curious that there are a minority of players who continually demand that choice be removed to make 'everyone' share the same pot...
I wonder how such a 'lawful' player would interpret things if I had a notoriety of 10 and several 100 million bounty, would that mean I was a ganker?