two-dimensional ship designs
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We can have them change stuff according to what you desire
Or we can have them do stuff like they want
What do you think they wil choose. Not having ships that are spire-shaped will not hurt the game, I say we keep it that way.
Please explain how having ships that are spire-shaped appeal to more people. I am part of the ''people'' group and it is not appealing to me.
I just cannot think of a reason (beside the second kind of cool) one would build a vertical ship.
Zero G would probably alleviate the rooms on top of each other issue, but if the ship has to turn on its side to land, even it a Coriolis then any ships stores or cargo would have to be stowed to account for that?
Looking at the B-Wing its Cockpit rotates and wings fold away just to allow it to land. What advantage does it have in vertical configuration to justify such engineering.
Slave One not as bad as you would just land with your back to the ground, with the docking assist display we have no issues, but still no distinct reason to do so.
Zero G would probably alleviate the rooms on top of each other issue, but if the ship has to turn on its side to land, even it a Coriolis then any ships stores or cargo would have to be stowed to account for that?
Looking at the B-Wing its Cockpit rotates and wings fold away just to allow it to land. What advantage does it have in vertical configuration to justify such engineering.
Slave One not as bad as you would just land with your back to the ground, with the docking assist display we have no issues, but still no distinct reason to do so.
Dont have to exaggerate, im not speaking about some abstract spiral shapes, all im asking is something more then generic cobra or hauler looking ships.
For example this design is so idiotic it makes my brain bleed.
The Ocellus Starport kinda looks like a football (especially for the non-American type), and it can be moved to new locations, so I guess it's already in the game.
Now now, let's think of how this can be worked into and help improve the game. If anything, it'll bring some added variety both in ship concepts and starports. It's a fact of life that not every vehicle with wheels can fit into every gas station, not every water-faring vessel can fit into every harbor, and not every space ship can fit into every space station. A semi-truck needs a truck stop, a commercial jet needs a commercial airport, and a vertically-unchallenged space freighter can facilitate a new wave of starports. With or without a mail slot. Outposts have already proven that the mail slot isn't necessary, and a little creativity can work around the issue of "landing".
Off the top of my head: A gigantic horizontal horseshoe-shaped starport in which literally any shape or size ship can fly into the open end and dock in a designated gate suspended in space with an airport-style tunnel extended to the ship's passenger/crew entrance/exit. And NPC cargo vessels would fly about retrieving cargo from the cargo bays of these docked ships.
I've got no qualms whatsoever with the design of the ships in Elite--if anything, comparing the pics of the ships from the original with their new designs gives me goosebumps and the original game is older than I am--but these are professional game developers making a professional game; if they wanted to make verical ships work in Elite for the sake of variety, I'm sure they could find ways to make it work. Obviously it ain't happening in the base game, but new ships and corresponding starports could one day be DLC.
Off the top of my head: A gigantic horizontal horseshoe-shaped starport in which literally any shape or size ship can fly into the open end and dock in a designated gate suspended in space with an airport-style tunnel extended to the ship's passenger/crew entrance/exit. And NPC cargo vessels would fly about retrieving cargo from the cargo bays of these docked ships.
I've got no qualms whatsoever with the design of the ships in Elite--if anything, comparing the pics of the ships from the original with their new designs gives me goosebumps and the original game is older than I am--but these are professional game developers making a professional game; if they wanted to make verical ships work in Elite for the sake of variety, I'm sure they could find ways to make it work. Obviously it ain't happening in the base game, but new ships and corresponding starports could one day be DLC.
Dont have to exaggerate, im not speaking about some abstract spiral shapes, all im asking is something more then generic cobra or hauler looking ships.
For example this design is so idiotic it makes my brain bleed.
Im speaking about something like this
I do realize that there are more ships coming but i just would like more variety and more complex, exciting scifi looking ships.
Sorry I don't understand, of course a Cobra looks like a Cobra and a Hauler looks like a Hauler
I don't think those ships look any more exciting, varied or non-generic than what we have or is planned currently
And those ships are certainly not less two-dimensional than what we have right now.
Most ships will have a nice flat shape as they will be able to enter planetary atmospheres for 1) fuel scooping and 2) planetary landings. Atmospheric flight will likely be unpleasant in anything but some sort of aerodynamic shape, preferrably with a nice flattish bottom for friction braking (I look forward to see if we get nice dramatic shaky flights going to the surface, or even fuel scooping).
If on the other hand we never wanted to land on a planet or indeed anywhere else with some sort of gravity, the ships can be any shape they want to be. But please don't complain that you can't land the Discovery 1 on Europa without it breaking up and/or annyoing the natives.
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If on the other hand we never wanted to land on a planet or indeed anywhere else with some sort of gravity, the ships can be any shape they want to be. But please don't complain that you can't land the Discovery 1 on Europa without it breaking up and/or annyoing the natives.
SYou're thinking like a gravity bound planeter. Just because the ship is wide or tall doesn't mean that internally, up is forward.
Heh. What was the best looking ship in Star Wars? That's right... the A-Wing, which would be right at home in Elite.
OOOOhhh I love the A-Wing...love blasting it to bits, that is
In all honesty though, I think what we are seeing here at the outset are the true Elite ships, built and crafted to make the die hard Elite fan happy. The die hard fans who make up the majority of the backers wanna see their old Elite ships in wonderful modern graphics glory. It is also the easiest path for the designers to go, since there is a lot of backstory to them. Good place to start on all fronts.
Now, when more ships come into the game, I'd hope the variety ticks up a bit...some more curves, some streamlining etc. I think it would be a mistake to have 25 ships that are all fairly flat and similarly shaped and I'd think FDev's art folks know better (and honestly don't want to be bored) than to just churn out generics.
I, for one, would be fairly disappointed if they didn't evolve (not drastically out of place) the ships out to be more otherworldly. I mean, you've got civilization spread across a galaxy. I would think ship design would start to diverge at some point.
Spaceballs. There goes the neighborhood...
Heh. What was the best looking ship in Star Wars? That's right... the A-Wing, which would be right at home in Elite.
Nah, it wouldn't work in Elite, everyone would complain that it's got tailfins.
Dont have to exaggerate, im not speaking about some abstract spiral shapes, all im asking is something more then generic cobra or hauler looking ships.
I do realize that there are more ships coming but i just would like more variety and more complex, exciting scifi looking ships.
1) I think the designs these two images would be right at home in Elite.
2) I think you'll be pleased with some of the imperial designs - they tend to have a more "organic aircraft" feel.
Lol. <Slinks away to cry over what has happened to the Asp...>
Couldn't say any better, but i doubt that majority of backers are the die hard fans who played the game 30 years ago. Most likely majority of backers are 20 ish space sim fans who have played eve or similar games.
Beat me to it
- yeah, more variety to come.There's nothing wrong with unusual ship designs per se, but it's better if there is a consistency of feel about a game, rather than it just trying to look different and inclusive for the sake of it.
I've never felt the need to apologize for or rationalize the design aesthetic of ED - I really like the ship designs we have. Forget the historical connection to the earlier games in the series - the ships look and feel heavy and dependible. The hauler is a terrific design, and closer in look to the only real reusable spaceships that humans have ever invented than anything else in games that I can think of.
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For example this design is so idiotic it makes my brain bleed.
With that I completely agree.
I wouldn't even call it 'design'.
EVE has a lot of very inconsistent, questionable, similar looking rubbish 'designs'.
But a handful of the ships are true beauties too.
Well not all ships in elite will be utilitarian.
Just to remind people of peek of the week 53
Honestly i'm quite surprised FD didn't push out a few imperial ships earlier on, that may have avoided the whole cheese wedge situation.
While it's true that we had a bit of concept art and the capital ship in the trailer, that's not really the things that people new to the game will see first.
Just to remind people of peek of the week 53
Honestly i'm quite surprised FD didn't push out a few imperial ships earlier on, that may have avoided the whole cheese wedge situation.
While it's true that we had a bit of concept art and the capital ship in the trailer, that's not really the things that people new to the game will see first.
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Most of them are designed as lifting bodies which would allow atmospheric travel.