Why don't hotspots work?

shadowfax986

S
Hi guys. Hope someone can illuminate me on this point. I am out in the black exploring with my FC. Not way out but around 1500ly from the bubble. When I discover a system with gas giants and icy rings I am scanning for minerals and if any interesting hotspots appear as in LTD, VO etc. I then survey for mineral content with my mining ship but invariably find that the hotspot doesn't contain any of the advertised goods. What is all this about? Surely the scanner should only react to genuine mineral content. Anything else really doesn't make sense. In addition, everything out here is pristine deposit so that is not an issue.

Any thoughts or issues would be greatly appreciated.

Regs.
 

metatheurgist

metatheurgist
The PWS doesn't detect mineral content. It only detects core mining features.

Single hotposts barely shift the needle for increasing the stated mineral, but they do. This is why the overlaps are so popular; otherwise people would just mine anywhere.
 

PaulieWotsit

PaulieWotsit
shadowfax986 said:
Sure have. I'm in a VO hotspot right now and have scanned around fifty asteroids at the centre of the hotspot and haven't found any VO content of any description.
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I gave up looking for them, I found one, and cocked up the core blaster thing...I hold a grudge against void opals now lol
 

metatheurgist

metatheurgist
So you understand the PWS only finds mining features, so why would you expect it to react to mineral content? It's never done that. Whether it should or not is an entirely different discussion for the suggestion forum.
 

rootsrat

Volunteer Moderator
rootsrat
metatheurgist said:
Single hotposts barely shift the needle for increasing the stated mineral, but they do. This is why the overlaps are so popular; otherwise people would just mine anywhere.
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Which would be a million times better solution IMO. But hey, at least people can exploit bazillion of Credits and get away with it so... who cares right?

As for the OP - I've seen this mentioned many times across various media. Maybe they nerfed the rates too much for the outskirts of the hotspots and they feed too much into the centres as well, basically rendering any information of what you can find inside a single hotspot useless? No idea.
 

LifesAJourney

LifesAJourney
I found two LTD and two or three VO cores yesterday in a double tritrium hotspot.

Maybe fdev moved all the goodies to tritium hotspots? ;)
 

Codger

Codger
It seems to be fairly random how good a particular single hotspot is.

I have been out in the black, about 22,000LY from the bubble but less than 1000LY from Colonia, and spent the last week doing a fair bit of exploring and mining.

While I found a couple of hotspots that seemed to be empty of anything worthwhile (like a VO hotspot with no VOs anywhere after 30 minutes of looking), but most of them have been better, and closer to what I'd expect. I found one LTD2 that produces extremely well, so those can be found in the black also. I have not found any triples to test yet.

Anyway, they do work, but it's not uniform. You still have to check each one out to see how good it is. That's my experience so far.
 

rootsrat

Volunteer Moderator
rootsrat
Codger said:
It seems to be fairly random how good a particular single hotspot is.

I have been out in the black, about 22,000LY from the bubble but less than 1000LY from Colonia, and spent the last week doing a fair bit of exploring and mining.

While I found a couple of hotspots that seemed to be empty of anything worthwhile (like a VO hotspot with no VOs anywhere after 30 minutes of looking), but most of them have been better, and closer to what I'd expect. I found one LTD2 that produces extremely well, so those can be found in the black also. I have not found any triples to test yet.

Anyway, they do work, but it's not uniform. You still have to check each one out to see how good it is. That's my experience so far.
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What is the point of labeling them then? :D (Sarcasm not directed at you).
 

Codger

Codger
rootsrat said:
What is the point of labeling them then? :D (Sarcasm not directed at you).
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Well I assume it's just the vagaries of random procedural generation. Ain't nobody gonna hand-check billions of systems, right?

I'm sure even the 'empty' ones are slightly better than nothing, just not enough better to be attractive to a player.
 

rootsrat

Volunteer Moderator
rootsrat
Codger said:
Well I assume it's just the vagaries of random procedural generation. Ain't nobody gonna hand-check billions of systems, right?

I'm sure even the 'empty' ones are slightly better than nothing, just not enough better to be attractive to a player.
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Well no, but you can ensure the RNG runs within reasonable extremes. Telling player in a video game that they will find item A in place X and they find items B, C, D, and E is not very good move IMO.
 

GraphiteGB

GraphiteGB
Went benitoite hunting in a single hot spot and it did give more benitoite but just barely... but this will be the issue with the real world and statistics how many hours in a ring at a time will have you TRAVEL enough to cover the hot spot area that any boost should cover... does the boost cover the distance you fly in 1 hour 2 hours or 6 hours in the hot spot...
2 hours is what im guessing for this hot spot
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rootsrat

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rootsrat
GraphiteGB said:
Went benitoite hunting in a single hot spot and it did give more benitoite but just barely... but this will be the issue with the real world and statistics how many hours in a ring at a time will have you TRAVEL enough to cover the hot spot area that any boost should cover... does the boost cover the distance you fly in 1 hour 2 hours or 6 hours in the hot spot...
2 hours is what im guessing for this hot spot
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I have a feeling that they just really messed it up when they've adjusted the outskirts vs centres of hotspots.
 

GraphiteGB

GraphiteGB
rootsrat said:
I have a feeling that they just really messed it up when they've adjusted the outskirts vs centres of hotspots.
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But that was only meant to be adjusted for SSD generation but your saying they broke other code by error when fixing LTD2 SSD generation, that was Higher in over laps than center.. and LTD3 SSD generation, got ya... they tweeked SSD but altered ICE ring only cores in error.
Laser mining in LTD3 is better than its ever been in over laps due to the excess in 38-40% laser rocks now per run...
 

rootsrat

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rootsrat
GraphiteGB said:
But that was only meant to be adjusted for SSD generation but your saying they broke other code by error when fixing LTD2 SSD generation, that was Higher in over laps than center.. and LTD3 SSD generation, got ya... they tweeked SSD but altered ICE ring only cores in error.
Laser mining in LTD3 is better than its ever been in over laps due to the excess in 38-40% laser rocks now per run...
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I've seen strager things happen after updates, so 🤷‍♂️ I don't exclude that possibility.
 

colprice2002

C
I've found than in a LTD hotspot I've come back with more tritium than LTDs - and roughly equivalent quantity of VOs...

It seems that my Pulse scanner is really good at finding water, bromellite, sometimes I'll find core Alexandrite... - all in a LTD Hotspot.
Mind you, I've vound LTDs in a double tritium hotspot as well...

Those whom the gods want to destroy get the RNG.
 
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