Ships Krait v Python

[[VR] Orodruin]

You have to factor in my crap collector technique - more certainly help when you keep crashing in to them and letting them go off on wild goose chases!

This is true. You can compensate lack of technique by outfitting choices, but then have to make sacrifices elsewhere. A bit of good game design in exposing commanders to these choices.

Edit: I still remember when I realized I could drop down from 8 to 7 collectors on my laser mining Python and gain two active prospectors.

 

[GroG79]

The only things that can even begin to threaten a Python are big ships with less maneuverability, so the marginal difference with a Krait is rather moot.
My Mission Python can carry 180t + 12 Limpets (for looting) and do Elite Assassinations without having to swap any modules.
A Krait can do all the things a Python can do, but not at the same time.

Indeed. That is why people who recommend the krait have 4 or more kraits

It is just not as multi as a Python. Which is the Pythons achilles' heel

 

[[VR] Orodruin]

Indeed. That is why people who recommend the krait have 4 or more kraits

I have three Pythons ... thinking of getting another ... I have a spare Python paintjob I am not currently using on any ship as I just had to get the black and gold Osiris for my main miner for some ARX I still had lying around. (I know you can reuse the same paintjob on several ships, but the ships need character - especially the Pythons.)

Full disclosure: I also have a Krait II. It is a Thargoid scout killer. I like that ship too.

 

[Ethaidan]

If you do that you can fly whatever floats your boat. However, if we are going to discuss what is in any objective way ”better for mining”, then haulage capacity per time is the only relevant metric. Any pilot should of course fly what they find enjoyable and you are free to have other preferences.

The point at which this discussion became an objective analysis of mining haulage capacity / time was when you posted. The OP asked for our preferences for cargo, mining and exploration. Speed, handling, and visibility all factor into that for me - far more than simple haulage/hour statistics.

 

[[VR] Orodruin]

The point at which this discussion became an objective analysis of mining haulage capacity / time was when you posted. The OP asked for our preferences for cargo, mining and exploration. Speed, handling, and visibility all factor into that for me - far more than simple haulage/hour statistics.

I explained why I preferred it as a min/maxing miner. I also pointed out quite clearly at the end of the analysis that if you are not doing that and mine slower (or ”leisurely” if you prefer that) then the Krait can gain. My point was that if you actually go for filling up as fast as possible - then travel time in the Krait becomes disproportionate. If I wanted travel time I would be trading, not mining.

 

[Steven J Kirk]

Sometimes, it's more about personal preference than stats.

I had a Python for ages, flew it when I needed to and it always did the job fine, but I never really enjoyed flying it.

i sold it a few months back and bought a Krait, which I absolutely love. The two ships are statistically similar, but there's something intangible about the Krait that just works for me and the way I play.

Given a choice between the two I'd vote Krait every day and twice on Sundays.

 

[Non Grata]

i sold it a few months back and bought a Krait, which I absolutely love. The two ships are statistically similar, but there's something intangible about the Krait that just works for me and the way I play.

There's so much personal taste in all of this - I feel exactly the same about them, but the other way around. It took me 6 years to try a Python but now that I did I just love sitting in it. I like the way that it flies too.

 

[Rebel Yell]

Problem: Krait does not have a pirate faction paint job.

 

[Anticon]

To the OP: just start with a Python, work until you have fully engineered it, then make the cash to buy a Krait of either type, engineer that, and the world/galaxy is your oyster.
Or start with a Krait thena Python. But buy and fly both. they are great ships for all kinds of fun.
I do most of my exploration in a Phantom, but will do a big run soon in a Python for a change.
Bottom line - it's all personal taste.

 

[Captain Willard]

Missions and trading? Python every time. Medium size combat ship? Krait II every time.
I use a clipper for exploration.
As said above. Bottom line - it's all personal taste.

 

[SergMx]

Open or Solo ?

 

[Steven J Kirk]

This is my Krait, which I finished engineering to G5 all over yesterday. I've tweaked a few bits as the process has gone on, and obviously the optional internals are subject to change based on whatever I'm doing (SLF, SRV, more cargo racks etc...), but this gives me a tough, maneuverable, well armed ship with a good jump range and a decent burst of speed if needed. All in all, I feel like this is the perfect multi-purpose ship for me. As has been emphasised before though, it's the "for me" that's the key to this discussion.

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[Slaphead91]

Throughout this thread everybody has covered the pros and cons of both ships in great detail, but there’s one major aspect of the Krait MKII that gives it a critical advantage over Python, and so far all commanders here have failed to mention it, and IMO that aspect is by the far the most important to consider when deciding between the two.

The Krait MKII comes supplied with a coffee machine on the bridge.

 

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[leeG]

I have both, and prefer the Python’s cockpit view out over that of the Krait. The Krait’s better view down doesn’t compensate in my book for its horse blinders wing extensions blocking the view up to either side. Plus the Python’s side view also lets you look a bit behind, while the Krait’s main canopy side view is almost directly to the side.

You can look farther behind to the sides in a Krait if you look out the crew side windows. I play in VR and that’s just literally too much of a stretch for this old neck.

The ability to look up to the sides is useful when cruising just under an ice ring pulse wave scanning. I do a series of gentle S-turns, looking up in the direction of the turn for glowing asteroids. Moving side to side in S-turns lets me scan a much wider area and also see asteroids that might be blocked from view at one angle but visible on the back track. In a Python this is no big deal with an unrestricted upper hemispheric view. In a Krait, this requires a series of cross control turns to get the wing extensions up out of the way. I find it gets tedious after a while. YMMV.

 

[leeG]

Throughout this thread everybody has covered the pros and cons of both ships in great detail, but there’s one major aspect of the Krait MKII that gives it a critical advantage over Python, and so far all commanders here have failed to mention it, and IMO that aspect is by the far the most important to consider when deciding between the two.

The Krait MKII comes supplied with a coffee machine on the bridge.

Does that make the Federal Dropship twice as good? It has TWO coffee makers, one on each side of the bridge.

 

[Slaphead91]

Does that make the Federal Dropship twice as good? It has TWO coffee makers, one on each side of the bridge.

Oh man - I'm already off to Jameson Memorial as I post this.

 

[Darkman Returns]

I faced a similar quandary when I made the jump from my trusty Cobra Mk III. I thought the Krait was probably the better multipurpose ship, but the Python's extra cargo carrying capacity would allow me to make money lugging cargo faster. I was tempted by both, but could only afford one.

In the end I was leaning towards the Krait but wanted to give the Python a fair chance to change my mind before I started upgrading, so I bought one to try out the handling and experience the more enclosed cockpit. I took it out of the station, pulled back on the stick and waited... After the Cobra it felt like I was flying through treacle and the view from the cockpit was far too limiting for my tastes. I flew straight back in to the station and sold it, then headed off to buy the Krait. The differences in visibility and handling were much more than the stats would suggest. The 10% hit in credits (Li Yong-Rui system so less than it could have been) I swallowed to test out the Python was money well spent as I was sure about my decision and could throw all my energy and credits into upgrading the Krait.

I understand the appeal of the Python if you are going to be lugging canisters around the galaxy and generally not seeking out combat; it is a superior workhorse. For me at least the Krait is just more fun to fly and fight, more flexible in terms of it's role and a swift loadout change transforms it into anything I want. Don't underestimate the impact of the SLF either; a GELID F beam laser equipped fighter with an experienced pilot is a force-multiplier, particularly against NPCs, who seem mesmerised by the tiny little insect buzzing around them melting their shields. I just wish Frontier would listen to their player-base and let my crewmember sit in my cockpit; it's so tiresome having to get up and fetch my own coffee

 

[[PS4] Lorenzo Waringos]

understand the appeal of the Python if you are going to be lugging canisters around the galaxy and generally not seeking out combat; it is a superior workhorse.

Having read through this thread and done some thinking, I think I might give the Krait another go. I have had a Python forever, it's A-rated and engineered to to the max. However, I no longer rely on hauling 180ton of cargo anymore. I can swap all my modules over from the Python to the Krait. I think I might just be ready for a change.

I'm currently 14% Dangerous in combat ranking and would like to finish that one aspect off.

I don't PvP (SOLO only), I don't want any crew, though an SLF does interest me, my basic question being, which Krait would suit me?

Open question to all.

 

[Darkman Returns]

I'm currently 14% Dangerous in combat ranking and would like to finish that one aspect off.

I don't PvP (SOLO only), I don't want any crew, though an SLF does interest me, my basic question being, which Krait would suit me?

Krait Mk II if you want to focus on your combat rank. It has an extra large hardpoint and you can carry a fighter hangar. The Phantom should be your steed of choice if you want to prioritise jump range, as it's lighter without them

Remember your NPC crew member will take a share of any kills they are involved in, so once you've ranked them up enough for them to be really effective (they rank up much faster so it doesn't take long ) don't send them out unless you think you need them. Of course you'll probably finish off enemies so much quicker with their help (and distraction) that it becomes moot