Any compensation incoming for non-exploiters?

Pristine_Bump

Pristine_Bump
Ian Doncaster said:
So 10 is an exploit, but 9 isn't?
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Ian Doncaster said:
One problem is that at the moment the "exploit" is to return to a sub-surface deposit that you've previously seen, having travelled some distance from it. Lots of people are doing that deliberately ... probably at least some people are just getting confused about which way they're going in the ring and doing it accidentally after flying round in a circle
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I think it unlikely that a miner would get lost 10 X,s on the trot or even with 2 roids lost 2 X 5 lol not that I mind either just your augument about lost miners is stretching credulity somewhat once might be accident twice coincidence but .........
 
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Ian Doncaster

Ian Doncaster
Pristine_Bump said:
I think it unlikely that a miner would get lost 10 X,s on the trot or even with 2 roids lost 2 X 5 lol not that I mind either just your augument about lost miners is stretching credulity somewhat oncw might be accident twice coincidence but .........
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Oh, I don't doubt that someone who mines the same rock 10x in a row knows exactly what they're doing.

I'm asking why someone who only does it 9x should get away with it if the 10x one gets punished?
 

Denneb

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Florenus said:
So, you want to be compensated for not doing anything, while others used exploits? Now that's entitlement.

That's the most absurd and hilarious thing I saw this week.
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5500hrs, King, Admiral, 3ple Elite, Founder of Formidine rift beacon and planet, Founder of Thargoid crash site #2, 13 ships fully engineered. Thats for "doing nothing".....
What have you done? Bought a fleet carrier in 3 days? :)
 

Alien

Alien
Denneb said:
5500hrs, King, Admiral, 3ple Elite, Founder of Formidine rift beacon and planet, Founder of Thargoid crash site #2, 13 ships fully engineered. Thats for "doing nothing".....
What have you done? Bought a fleet carrier in 3 days? :)
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How can you be a "Founder of Formidine rift beacon and planet" and a "Founder of Thargoid crash site #2" ? I don't understand how you're a Founder of anything.
FWIW I'm a Founder Of The Elite, an empty and meaningless title that's not even recognised in-game.
 

Denneb

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Alien said:
How can you be a "Founder of Formidine rift beacon and planet" and a "Founder of Thargoid crash site #2" ? I don't understand how you're a Founder of anything.
FWIW I'm a Founder Of The Elite, an empty and meaningless title that's not even recognised in-game.
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Lol, I mean I found them, as in "discovered". Anyway, enough of that cause I hate /flexing. I merely replied to his/her accusation about entitlement and intended gameplay
 
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Crank Larson

Crank Larson
Morbad said:
Your apathy is possible only through equally imaginary factors.

Dismissing the effects others can have in a persistent, shared, setting means dismissing much intended gameplay.
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I'm not dismissing the effects that others can have. But just being able to earn lots of credits is really not that big an effect on anything. I've seen many of the arguments put forward by those that insist it is ruining their BGS play - but I've seen none that I agree with. Besides, in a game, griping at others playing the same game and under the same rules as you seems very pointless.
 

RiotRabit

RiotRabit
-VR- Max Factor said:
I don't exploit and not interested in compensation either. If people want to ruin the game for themselves by exploiting, that's up to them.
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"Ruin the game" is subjective. Many gamers play a game for reasons other than the developers' intended experience. For said players, the game is not ruined, but enjoyable. Sometimes this altering of the experience is harmless - sometimes it has a negative effect on other players.

Determining if an how much of a negative effect a given exploit has on a playerbase and what, if anything, should be done about it is an important topic.
 

Morbad

Morbad
Crank Larson said:
I'm not dismissing the effects that others can have. But just being able to earn lots of credits is really not that big an effect on anything. I've seen many of the arguments put forward by those that insist it is ruining their BGS play - but I've seen none that I agree with.
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How many fleet carriers do you think there would be if these exploits had never existed or were immediately patched out?

Crank Larson said:
Besides, in a game, griping at others playing the same game and under the same rules as you seems very pointless.
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I'm hardly playing by the same rules as cheaters.
 

-VR- Max Factor

-VR- Max Factor
RiotRabit said:
"Ruin the game" is subjective. Many gamers play a game for reasons other than the developers' intended experience. For said players, the game is not ruined, but enjoyable. Sometimes this altering of the experience is harmless - sometimes it has a negative effect on other players.

Determining if an how much of a negative effect a given exploit has on a playerbase and what, if anything, should be done about it is an important topic.
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Yes I've seen it loads of times. They grind an exploit to get the "best" stuff only to find that the game hasn't changed much with the "best" stuff and then they leave as they complain that there isn't any end game. Happens very often. What they haven't realised is that a game like ED end game starts when you start playing and all they have done is exploit and grind their way through to realise that there is nothing afterwards. Well that's what I've seen in the forums anyway.

You see over the years, I have come to the conclusion that most people can't help themselves and always go for the easy option to get to the end and then complain about it after. It's the reason why there are so many complaints about grind. They do all this grind to find out the game doesn't change when they have that corvette or anaconda.
 

Non Grata

Non Grata
Denneb said:
earned themselves in a few days the luxury of buying and sustaining an FC for life?
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How many hours of exploiting mining would it take to achieve this (asking for a friend who doesn't want a FC but might be tempted if there was no upkeep)?
 

RiotRabit

RiotRabit
Non Grata said:
How many hours of exploiting mining would it take to achieve this (asking for a friend who doesn't want a FC but might be tempted if there was no upkeep)?
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1 year's worth of fleet carrier upkeep is roughly 6 - 7 billion. Current exploit is roughly half a billion an hour. So, roughly 12 - 14 hours of mining the exploit nets you about a year of no upkeep.
 

Denneb

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RiotRabit said:
"Ruin the game" is subjective. Many gamers play a game for reasons other than the developers' intended experience. For said players, the game is not ruined, but enjoyable. Sometimes this altering of the experience is harmless - sometimes it has a negative effect on other players.

Determining if an how much of a negative effect a given exploit has on a playerbase and what, if anything, should be done about it is an important topic.
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Exactly! And my opinion is that this particular mining fiasco will have a detrimental effect on the game because the wealth generated in a few weeks is probably more than the wealth generated in game since its launch. Can you imagine the magnitude of a moneysink that FDev will need to implement in the near future to compensate for that big portion of the player base with hundreds of billions in their pockets? And most important, how this money sink will be unbearable for all the other players who follow other career paths?
I think we already got the first example, and its no other than the FCs. You can afford them through mining (and especially exploitative mining) in a week, but you will need months or even years through other career paths.
 
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