VR support 'not at launch' for Odyssey

[Franc Kaos]

My hope is that it's just the nausea and going from cockpit to shooter that's given them pause
My fear is the engine / planetary generation improvements make it impossible to optimise enough to give smooth VR

The first issue is fixable (if a little hacky) with various options, the second may not be.

 

[Stigbob]

When you say least vr invested what you really mean is you don't have any vr at all correct but still feel the need to act superior to those who have it and have issues with the lack of clarity from Frontier regarding its future?

That just happens as a side effect of me not being an extremist.

The drama seems to be contained to one or two threads and its essentially the same 10 people arguing over the meaning of words. I know Eurogamer and Kotaku are content hungry publications but even they'd be hard pushed to write something about this "drama".

Plus the clickbaity youtube video's obviously :

FINALLY VR SUPPORT FOR ODYSSEY

Source: https://youtu.be/Qin2DXuJdTQ Yay!!!@@ No salt!!! o7

forums.frontier.co.uk

 

[VR Golgot]

It is odd that the least VR invested poster is the one most positive about it.

Not really. You're primarily positive about it because you don't actually care about it and it doesn't affect you

And you're happy to read any news in its most positive possible light because it would justify your apparent belief that that it's all a fuss over nothing.

So no. Not that odd really...

If we are doing conspiracy theories here's one for you, any drama is good for FDEV, ED and the DLC irrespective of the actual status of VR. No VR drama spreads the word around raising awareness of ED and FDEV and the DLC. This works no matter the actual status of VR, if they later announce they have it for launch they get another splurge of clicks and attention again raising awareness. They also reinforce players thinking they can steer progress which increases future drama and awareness.

For example I've learned more about what FDEV are actually doing with EDO in this thread than everywhere else put together since I'm not obsessing over any of the details am not worried about it and haven't bothered to go looking.

The drama is all just free advertising.

We weren't doing conspiracy theories, but yes, I agree that it could have been a deliberate strategy. If you've got some bad news why not get it out early in the PR cycle, get loads of 'community engagement' as a result, and bonus coverage of the fuss in the gaming press.

Whether or not there's a further strategy pegged to it, I guess time might tell. IE say delivering some form of compromised VR for launch, for example, but having the community be fine with that because it could have been worse (IE no VR etc).

 

[VR Golgot]

That just happens as a side effect of me not being an extremist.

extremist
/ɪkˈstriːmɪst,ɛkˈstriːmɪst/

noun
derogatory
noun: extremist; plural noun: extremists

1. a person who holds extreme political or religious views, especially one who advocates illegal, violent, or other extreme action.
   "right-wing extremists"

A strange way to describe those who don't have your sunny view of VR's current prognosis for EDO.

 

[Stigbob]

Not really. You're primarily positive about it because you don't actually care about it and it doesn't affect you

I'm looking forward to enjoying the new DLC for one of my favorite games. There is no VR win/lose scenario for me though.

And you're happy to read any news in its most positive possible light because it would justify your apparent belief that that it's all a fuss over nothing.

I'm a glass is half full person. ED's been consistency doomed in all sorts of ways since pre-launch, yet here we all are. So yes its just another big fuss in an endless succession of big fusses about nothing very much at all.

We weren't doing conspiracy theories, but yes, I agree that it could have been a deliberate strategy. If you've got some bad news why not get it out early in the PR cycle, get loads of 'community engagement' as a result, and bonus coverage of the fuss in the gaming press.

Whether or not there's a further strategy pegged, I guess time might tell. IE say delivering some form of compromised VR for launch, for example, but having the community be fine with that because it could have been worse (IE no VR etc).

Wait and see. Which is the tack I always take with this stuff. They might get VR working for launch they might do it later.

 

[Stigbob]

Everyone in the VR community who has issues is an extremist?

Breaking news: Youtube video is clickbait.

Obviously not, that is a well timed example of a fairly extreme way of feigning pretend offense on behalf of a group though.

 

[sgurr]

I fully encourage the use of a forum block function for the following:

I use it with people who never add anything to a discussion or are just blatant trolls.

@[VR] Golgot especially, while it's useful to keep the thread visible you're not going to get anywhere (unless you're actively enjoying your current engagement obviously o7)

but

Sadly im unable to mute myself.

me neither

Have a good day everyone

 

[Stigbob]

I fully encourage the use of a forum block function for the following:

@[VR] Golgot especially, while it's useful to keep the thread visible you're not going to get anywhere (unless you're actively enjoying your current engagement obviously o7)

but

me neither

Have a good day everyone

That's great advice, always remember to tell someone repeatedly just how much you are ignoring them .

 

[VR Golgot]

I'm looking forward to enjoying the new DLC for one of my favorite games. There is no VR win/lose scenario for me though.

Yep. And it explains much of your posting in this thread. (And the errancy of much of it, with regards to the specifics of the VR issue).

I'm a glass is half full person. ED's been consistency doomed in all sorts of ways since pre-launch, yet here we all are. So yes its just another big fuss in an endless succession of big fusses about nothing very much at all.

As does this.

Hardly any VR posts are about 'doom for ED'. Why even drag that into the equation? You're in here fighting phantoms on that front. And making a fuss over nothing as a result, ironically

At a bare minimum, discontent about not having VR access to EDO at launch is a perfectly understandable response by the VR community. You bundling it into the 'fuss about nothing' pile, as you do, is a bizarre and counter-productive personal campaign.

Wait and see. Which is the tack I always take with this stuff. They might get VR working for launch they might do it later.

I'd rather take the positive and proactive approach thanks . Which is to help flag community discontent constructively, communicate with the devs, and advocate for possible solutions. In total those acts give FDev more reasons to investigate solutions on their end.

It's more constructive than doing nothing at all.

 

[VR Golgot]

@@[VR] Golgot especially, while it's useful to keep the thread visible you're not going to get anywhere (unless you're actively enjoying your current engagement obviously o7)

I knowwww.

But he's wrong so often I just have to tell him about it

 

[Robert Maynard]

Please discuss the topic. Other participants are not the topic. Failure comply with this simple request will result in advisories, warnings and / or thread reply bans.

 

[VR SenseiMatty]

Cooking a meal starts with knowing what you have in the cupboards already, plus what other stuff you need and what you'll have left over afterwards plus what other meals in the meantime will leave you with by that time. So planning is the key step in cooking well.

What if you believe you have an ingredient and you don't find it anymore? I usually go to the grocery and buy it. But some people could decide it doesn't worth the effort and cook something else not as good as the original idea.

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

Obviously planning is actively working on something.

I am planning on starting running again and losing weight. I have been planning this for 5 years.
I doubt any would count that as I started running again 5 years ago

 

[Viajero]

I am planning on starting running again and losing weight. I have been planning this for 5 years.
I doubt any would count that as I started running again 5 years ago

This is starting to become very silly. In that case you are not planning anything. You are just lying to yourself. So unless what you are actually trying to suggest is that FDEV is lying when they say they are exploring options for EDO VR, then I´d suggest better to leave this useless example argumentation line.

 

[Stigbob]

What if you believe you have an ingredient and you don't find it anymore? I usually go to the grocery and buy it. But some people could decide it doesn't worth the effort and cook something else not as good as the original idea.

Happens all the time, you open or cut into something and it's gone manky. So you reshuffle the menu a bit and still get what you want a bit later on or with slightly different sides. Or to really stretch the analogy you go out for a meal and have something you never tried before off the specials board (steam sales).

 

[Stigbob]

I am planning on starting running again and losing weight. I have been planning this for 5 years.
I doubt any would count that as I started running again 5 years ago

I bought smaller pans and plates, switched carbs for fresh fruit, dropped refined sugar completely and repaired my bike. I've lost loads of weight and successfully reversed pre-diabetes.

 

[amigacooke]

This is starting to become very silly. In that case you are not planning anything. You are just lying to yourself. So unless what you are actually trying to suggest is that FDEV is lying when they say they are exploring options for EDO VR, then I´d suggest better to leave this useless example argumentation line.

Frontier were planning to bring Horizons out for macOS, but nothing came of it (regardless of who was to blame). So planning for VR is laudible, but not much use if nothing comes of it.

 

[CMDR M Kozak]

This is starting to become very silly. In that case you are not planning anything. You are just lying to yourself. So unless what you are actually trying to suggest is that FDEV is lying when they say they are exploring options for EDO VR, then I´d suggest better to leave this useless example argumentation line.

Again you confuse me. Are you a rep for FDEV or an individual posting on a forums? Make up your mind or leave the discussion.

@mods, please consider the impact of your posts with the current flairs.

 

[CMDR M Kozak]

Calm yourself mods are well within their rights to speak about anything they like. As far as im aware they take the mod hat off when it comes to moderation of a thread they're actively speaking in.

its the flair and emphasised look of the messages thats the real problem. They appear as reps for FDEV.

 

[Viajero]

Frontier were planning to bring Horizons out for macOS, but nothing came of it (regardless of who was to blame). So planning for VR is laudible, but not much use if nothing comes of it.

No project is guaranteed to arrive at a happy outcome, but there is a significant difference between lying to yourself or to the community and actually be working on it even if fails in the end.